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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    Lol this is the gift that keeps on giving.
    Trump sacks defiant acting attorney general Sally Yates
    Donald Trump has fired the acting US attorney general after she questioned the legality of his immigration ban.

    Sally Yates, who was appointed by Barack Obama, ordered justice department lawyers not to enforce the president's executive order.

    A White House statement accused Ms Yates of "betraying" the justice department and being "weak on borders".

    Mr Trump replaced her with Dana Boente, US attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.

    Mr Boente said he was "honoured to serve President Trump" and immediately directed his department to enforce the controversial order.

    Mr Trump also replaced the acting director of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Daniel Ragsdale, who has been in the post since 20 January. He is the former deputy director.

    No reason was given for Mr Ragsdale's sacking. He has been replaced by Thomas Homan, the executive associate director of enforcement and removal.

    Mr Trump's order temporarily banned nationals from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the US, and sparked street protests in the US and abroad.

    Thousands join anti-Trump protests
    Diplomats' dissent falls on deaf ears
    Amateur hour at the White House?

    Ms Yates, a career prosecutor who served as deputy attorney general under Barack Obama, said in a letter that she was "not convinced" that the president's order was lawful.

    "As long as I am the acting attorney general, the department of justice will not present arguments in defence of the Executive Order," she said.
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    Media captionDemocratic Senator Richard Blumenthal paid tribute to Sally Yates for "taking a stand"

    Within hours, the White House announced: "President Trump relieved Ms Yates of her duties."

    A statement claimed she had "betrayed the department of justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States".

    It also described her as "weak on borders and very weak on illegal immigration".

    Democrats hits back at Ms Yates' dismissal. Senator Chuck Schumer, the party leader, said in a statement that the "attorney general should be loyal and pledge fidelity to the law, not the White House. The fact that this administration doesn't understand that is chilling".
    "Monday Night Massacre?" Analysis by Anthony Zurcher, North America reporter, BBC News

    Donald Trump's critics are calling it the "Monday Night Massacre". That's a reference to President Richard Nixon's Saturday night sacking of his attorney general during the depths of the Watergate scandal of 1973, the last time top justice department officials were forced out by a president.

    This time around is a bit different, however. Acting Attorney General Sally Yates essentially forced Mr Trump's hand when she ordered justice department lawyers not to defend the president's recent immigration order in court.

    Mr Trump could not abide such defiance from an Obama Administration holdover due for replacement soon anyway. Once again, however, his White House team could not help but turn the rhetorical volume up to 11 in announcing the firing, accusing Ms Yates of having "betrayed" the justice department.

    Ms Yates's move follows on the heels of a similarly extraordinary reaction to a letter, signed by more than 100 career state department officials, condemning the immigration action as un-American.

    It's easy to imagine that this administration - just over a week in power - feels set against a Washington bureaucracy seeking to undermine it at every turn. If that kind of bunker mentality grows in the days ahead, this political bloodletting likely will be only the beginning.

    Is Trump's immigration order legal?

    Her replacement, Mr Boente, was also appointed by Barack Obama, in 2015. He was confirmed by the US Senate - making him eligible for appointment while Mr Trump waits for his own nominee to be approved.

    Senator Jeff Sessions is awaiting a confirmation hearing for the role later this week.

    Meanwhile, hundreds of diplomats and foreign servants have been drafting a "dissent cable" to formally criticise the president's executive order.
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    A draft version of the cable said that immigration restrictions will not make the US safer, are un-American and will send the wrong message to the Muslim world.

    The ban bars citizens from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen.

    The White House has consistently defended Mr Trump's executive order despite the controversy, with press secretary Sean Spicer saying diplomats should "get with the programme".

    In addition, former President Barack Obama has apparently broken with the convention of former presidents avoiding comment on their successors.
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    Image caption President Trump's order was met with widespread protests - including this one at JFK airport in New York

    Commenting on the protests about the immigration order, President Obama said he was "heartened".

    "Citizens exercising their constitutional right to assemble, organise and have their voices heard by their elected officials is exactly what we expect to see when American values are at stake," he said in a statement, which did not mention Mr Trump by name.
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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    Quote Originally Posted by plug1 View Post
    How about a tldr for the short of attention. Lol
    that at the bottom where is says

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    Not really much to say on this other than to shake my head and post a picture.

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    America is going to implode, was a mess before this flappy haired fucknugget got in but now if I was in the US id be seriously thinking of moving out.
    Anyone fancy a flutter on if he makes full term before being ousted lol
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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    Quote Originally Posted by consoles View Post
    America is going to implode, was a mess before this flappy haired fucknugget got in but now if I was in the US id be seriously thinking of moving out.
    Anyone fancy a flutter on if he makes full term before being ousted lol
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    US wakes up and removes him from power 65/1
    Well I said it on here before the vote that I believed Clinton would be bad for America but Trump would be bad for both America and the rest of the world, early days but things are certainly changing....

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    I'd like to think he has some agenda we don't know about yet.
    But he clearly doesn't.

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    The only credit I'd give him, is that he does not bullshit like most politicians hes said it and now hes doing it right or wrong.

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    I don't really understand what all the hoo-ha is about to be honest. Trump was democratically voted in, and is doing exactly what he said he would do. That's a good thing isn't it? Should we not be applauding him, even if we're not keen on his actions?

    Nobody seemed to care when Obama dropped 26,000 bombs on people last year - no petition mentioned for that.

    People also didn't seem to care when Obama, publicly and directly threatened us during the Brexit campaign by saying that we'd go to the back of the trade queue if we voted leave. Said it brazenly, stood right next to our Prime Minister. They talk about Putin interfering with voting of other nations - what about that? Practically nowt said.

    Politics is simply all about theatrics and presentation these days (maybe it always was) - there is simply no substance. Two different people can say or do similar things, but they can be interpreted totally differently, purely due to spin.

    That's why I like Trump, Farage and Corbyn - you may not like what they say, but at least you're reasonably sure that you know what you're getting with them!

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    Default Re: Trump: This is the start of what is to come

    Hitler too was democratically elected ... at least Trump will Tweet before he pushes the red button

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