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    Default Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Booked

    Well ive got myself in a mess here.

    Brought a 500 tmax scooter in jan, Whilst moving it to my ex's house for storing (garage) on the 17th jan, I've been caught doing 36 in a 30,notice came today.

    bike was MOT,Tax'd and insured.

    My CBT is tmrw 14th feb.Leading on to my full bike licence. All this was pre-booked.

    Now i don't know what to do.

    Do i continue spending the £600, so they can instantly take it off me. Or just forget it, and go to court and face the music.

    I have 28 days to reply, by then i could have full licence number to put on the notice, obviously the pass date will be after my ticket date

    Any advice will be great

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Wouldn’t your insurance be invalid as you don’t have a full licence? I’d go for the licence regardless and push to get a speed awareness course for a punishment.


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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    It would be i guess, but i wanted it insured against theft.

    That would be the dream ending having the course.

    a ban for 2 years, plus £600 down the drain for a licence id of had for a week lol wouldn't be nice.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Can't you say someone else was riding, who has a full UK licence prior April 2004, then opt for speed awareness court?
    NO mark on their record, you pay all costs? Nothing on your licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    Can't you say someone else was riding, who has a full UK licence prior April 2004, then opt for speed awareness court?
    NO mark on their record, you pay all costs? Nothing on your licence.

    This was my top plan, but i don't know anyone with a full licence for motorbikes .i was obviously willing to pay.

    Then atleast my tests wont all be in vain

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    Can't you say someone else was riding, who has a full UK licence prior April 2004, then opt for speed awareness court?
    NO mark on their record, you pay all costs? Nothing on your licence.
    isn't speed awareness is normally 10%+1, so this would be 34mph? so at 36 it would be points for sure?

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    It is a option on my ticket form.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    I had a speed awareness for 36 in a 30 (car not bike)

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Mostly depends on speed doing 70 in a 30 your not getting a speed awareness course ..up to about 40 first offence ir at least not in 3 years your usually fine to do the course hope you manage to wangle it

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Quote Originally Posted by jw_2000_uk View Post
    This was my top plan, but i don't know anyone with a full licence for motorbikes .i was obviously willing to pay.

    Then atleast my tests wont all be in vain
    That will get you both sent to prison if you get caught!

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Who qualifies for a speed awareness course?

    Not every speeding offence will result in the offer of an option to attend an awareness course. In fact they're only offered if:

    • You haven't been convicted of any other speeding offences in the past three years
    • You've been caught driving over 10% plus 2mph of the limit, but below 10% plus 9mph. In a 30mph zone, this means anything between 35mph and 42mph, while in a 70mph zone it means anything between 79mph and 86mph

    In any other circumstances you'll receive a fixed penalty notice and a minimum of three licence points.
    In fact, if you're driving over 10% plus 9mph you're in grave danger of receiving a court summons.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    My CBT is tmrw 14th feb.Leading on to my full bike licence. All this was pre-booked.

    You are fucked.
    No licence to put points on. Ban and fine. Been there, done that. I even got pinched driving on my ban!

    Speeding on a bike without a licence is just silly. I'm guessing gatso or mobile gun got you?
    Speeding offence will be pushed aside and they persue the fact you shouldn't have even been on the road, let alone speeding on it.

    Harsh I know, but unfortunately true.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Quote Originally Posted by DejaVu View Post

    You are fucked.
    No licence to put points on. Ban and fine. Been there, done that. I even got pinched driving on my ban!

    Speeding on a bike without a licence is just silly. I'm guessing gatso or mobile gun got you?
    Speeding offence will be pushed aside and they persue the fact you shouldn't have even been on the road, let alone speeding on it.

    Harsh I know, but unfortunately true.
    If it was on a 50cc they could put the points on my provisional.

    It may be a scooter, but its not a 50

    Was a mobile camera.

    I totally accept im on the wrong of course.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Did you go ahead with the CBT ??
    You could try pleading 'ignorance/stupidity' and hope for a VERY lenient judge ?!?!

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Did you go ahead with the CBT ??
    You could try pleading 'ignorance/stupidity' and hope for a VERY lenient judge ?!?!
    I did, got my certificate. Yeah, in all honesty life's upside down at the moment, this just add's to my woes.

    But regardless. Im stupid for riding it pre correct licence.

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    Quote Originally Posted by jw_2000_uk View Post
    I did, got my certificate. Yeah, in all honesty life's upside down at the moment, this just add's to my woes.

    But regardless. Im stupid for riding it pre correct licence.
    Hopefully the judge won't order you to sit the test again after the ban

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    Default Re: Speeding Fine Through Post On Provisional Licence On A 500c Bike.But Test Is Book

    I did a speed awareness course the other week. Incidentally it's worth looking around if you need to do one of these. Milton Keynes wanted almost £100 for the course, Northampton which is only about 15 miles away and it was £30 cheaper!

    Scandalous. I quite enjoyed the course to be honest and wonder if presenting this to new drivers as part of the test would help reduce speeding.
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