Explanation of the term ECM

**probsat** · 22nd February 2003

**jim11** · 23rd February 2003

Originally posted by probsat
Hi

ECM doesn't mean Electronic Counter Measure.

It actualy means Electronic Control Message.

ECM is short for Electronic Control Message. These are commands which are used to control the working of your card. ECM's are always sent as packets. Such a packet is called a Control Word (CW) and it contains coded keys, ID's etc. needed to decode the signal. In other words, the ECM identifies the service and the conditions that have to be met in order to use that service. Providers will also use fake ECM's to disable pirate cards. That is why a lot of people translate ECM as Electronic Counter Measure.
Elerror ECM (Entitlement Control Message) is a string that provides encrypted control words and other data that your card decrypts and sends back to the cam so you wuld have a picture on your tv. No ECM - no picture.

Thanks go to ML for this info

You say tomadoes , and i say tomatoes, tomatoes, tomadoes, tomatoes, tomadoes, lets ca............... :-)

Your proberbly right , but :-)
What it stands for *is* what *most* people understand it to stand for :-)

Do a www.groups.google.com or www.google.com for "Electronic Control Message" then do one for "Electronic Counter Measure" and let the results speak for themselfs :-)

regards
jim

**the_wizzard** · 23rd February 2003

@ jim11

no need to be funny m8 probsat knows his stuff dont be fooled by the low post count. for some people this means nothing.

Your proberbly right

he is right.

What it stands for *is* what *most* people understand it to stand for

maybe thats why they make mistakes?

booboo

**Undertaker** · 23rd February 2003

Probsat is right

but to the average person ECM, usually means oh shit, time to update card

**probsat** · 23rd February 2003

**tonycrew** · 23rd February 2003

Wow and there i was having great difficulty in understanding how to program the dam card.

It's a good job someone know somat about somat.

You are right though most people who had OnD, heard of ECM's and everytime someone mentioned it we thought sh*t time to update our cards.

**jim11** · 23rd February 2003

Originally posted by booboo
@ jim11

no need to be funny m8 probsat knows his stuff dont be fooled by the low post count. for some people this means nothing.

he is right.

maybe thats why they make mistakes?

booboo

Well i wasnt trying to be funny m8 ( there were no "lol" or "ha ha"), i was trying to explain what we average jo blo understand it to mean, without causing any friction, ive been around years aswell, so i knew that this reply could rub someone the wrong way, so i (tried to) made it clear that it wasnt meant that way with plenty of smilies :-)

What i was getting at is if someone here reads "electronic control measure" and then tries to learn more by searching for that term then they wont get very far. Wheras if they search for (wether its right or wrong) "electronic counter measure" then they will learn something, so IMHO its best to remain as electronic counter measure.

So ....@ probsat, i hope you understand what i was getting at m8 :-)

[leark mode engaged]

regards
jim

**the_wizzard** · 23rd February 2003

@jim11

i know what you ment m8 i wasnt intending to have a go at you i said what i said cos i thought that some peeps would look at probsats low post count and start takin the piss(like some do) and i didnt want this to start,thats all. we know each other and he has given me a great deal of help with the nagra stuff,for witch im very gratefull, so you see i know he knows his stuff others may not?

booboo