Voting

[ABCMan]

this thread is just to get an idea of peoples voting intentions and how they voted last time (if you voted)

its a multiple choice vote so please mark how you voted last time and how you intend to vote at the next elections, lets see how we as a group compare to national trends.

i'm not asking for anyone to discuss the reasons why unless they want to but please do vote in this poll even if you dont intend to vote in the next one.


Please Remember to cast 2 votes, one for last time and one for next time

[Fusen]

wheres the option for not old enough? lol

[monsta]

maybe add an option for undecided in the next election?

[DelTrotter]

Tory All the Way but like Blair Alot he relised that Old Labour Had no chance of gaining power so adopted alot of Tory Values.

[ABCMan]

both added

[dingle_666]

this time either bnp is its on the ballot, if not conservative

[TwoPlAnKs]

the results last time seem to show that this board attracts torryish type people since the real results were much more in favour of labour

we have to remember though, the percentage of people who vote for a party has little effect on the percentage of seats they get - with a PR system the libdems and other smaller parties would get a lot more seats since they have enough votes, they are just spread out in different constituencys so they dont actually win many

This election more people are likely to vote away from labour and whoever wins is unlikely to win by much - a classic case of more than half the population voting for a party other than the winning one so overall people will be unhappy with the outcome

if i could vote i would probably go for libdems - even without looking at the manisfestos you could probably guess that they will do better than the other jokers we've had lately, and if you do look at it in some depth they seem to be the most realistic option - unlike labour and concervative who same to be more or less the same thing with tblair being a twat as usual

[maverick_15]

and there was me thinking that youd be a hardcore tory voter (sorry, torry )

[TwoPlAnKs]

ack - there's an area in aberdeen called torry and i always use that spelling - just kinda sticks

tory from now on

[Yazmon]

True this board is very right wing, (or at least the people who post are!) I would imagine the outcome will be conservatiive, or even further right wing. Each to their own though I guess.

@TwoPlanks, true PR would boost LibDem etc, thing is an MP is meant to act for the region who voted them in, so PR doesnt really help us, in fact it would hinder us as the people elected would not be directly accountable to the electorate, but would always follow the whip. (Well thats what is should be in theory!) Places like the US _should_ have PR when they elect their president, as he represents everyone.

Er.. sorry :offtopic ill stop now

[urbsy]

Nice to see bnp getting a few votes, top drawer.

urbsy

[ABCMan]

what you say is absolutely right, in this country pr would be a disaster as it is in almost all democracys basicly it gives a minority party a disproportionate share of the mp's, meaning that the parties like the tories or labour would never be able to implement their policies (good or bad) because parties like the lib/dems, bnp or greens would have to be brought into a coalition in order to gain power and sadly those kind of things never work, unles you were a supporter of one of those minor parties would you realy want them having the ability to bring down the government if they were not getting their policies implimented?

[ABCMan]

twoplanks and yazamon where do u get the idea this board is toryish?

look at the poll results

last time tories and labour were neck and neck, remember that in the real thing it was the same, but labour won a landslide because they won more seats, but the share of the vote was far closer. if what is shown above means anything it shows that this board has BECOME more right wing and i would assume that is because of labours policies as well as the possibility that the tories now offer something more credible in the way of opposition.

[MrQ]

it dont matter who gets the vote your Mr average Joe Bloggs who smokes drinks drives a car {not at the same time cause you`ll just spill your drink burn your leg and crash your car} will keep the country afloat. but that as allready been discussed elsewere so leave it alone. We need fecking better imigration control so if theres any Mps surffin d/f take note

[urbsy]

Well said m8, its the immigration thing or should I say the asylum thing that is pissing me right off about labour. Yeah since they came into power interest rates have become lower but apart from that they have done bugger all.
The motorist is a villan as far as labour is concerned and that is a major flaw in their policies indeed.

Those that don't live in an areas that are affected by asylum swines don't actually realise whats happening.

urbsy

[Yazmon]

twoplanks and yazamon where do u get the idea this board is toryish?

As I said, (though badly) it would seem like it from the people who actually post on polictal issues. DF has a large memerlist so Im sure it will be close to the national average. Also one thing I have noticed on various boards Im on, the right wing folk seem to make a lot more noise than modderate or the left wingers, not sure why...

[SOMAN]

Depends how many vote, so far only 41 have voted

[ABCMan]

As I said, (though badly) it would seem like it from the people who actually post on polictal issues. DF has a large memerlist so Im sure it will be close to the national average. Also one thing I have noticed on various boards Im on, the right wing folk seem to make a lot more noise than modderate or the left wingers, not sure why...

maybe thats nothing much to do with a boards politics and more to do with the fact that we have a labour government that has over the last few years become more unpopular, i'd guess that if you were on a board back in 1996 it would have looked very different, but even from the votes cast so far it looks like it was pretty much a 50/50 split between left / right last time and now peoples voting intentions have changed.

the realy weird thing is that the last time the far right was popular was the 1979 elections after another period of labour government, it seems that putting labour in power results in a swing to the far right, of course back then it was the NF who were openly racist in their policies and would (under pr) have won several seats, luckily our current system prevented that.

[digidump]

the realy weird thing is that the last time the far right was popular was the 1979 elections after another period of labour government, it seems that putting labour in power results in a swing to the far right, of course back then it was the NF who were openly racist in their policies and would (under pr) have won several seats, luckily our current system prevented that.

The really weird thing is -it's just not true they wouldn't have won 'several seats' - in 1974 after 4 years of Tory government the National Front recieved 0.2% of the vote and after six months of minority Labour government this had increased to 0.4%. Despite your assertion that 'putting labour in power results in a swing to the far right' in 1979 there share of the vote was only 0.6% despite the fact they fielded candidates in almost half of the available seats (double the number they contesyed in 1974). I appreciate that in pure statistical terms this is a swing but contesting half the seats and receiving less than 200k votes was regarded as an abject failure by themselves and others. I cannot think of a type of PR that gives seats to parties with such a low proportion of the votes cast.

General election voting figures taken from http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...election,-1979

[ABCMan]

lol, i hadnt realised that they had failed that miserably, i was just too young to vote back then but there was nf stuff everywhere in the press and on the news, it sounded from the press that they were a real threat, i know they didnt win any seats but must admit i thought they had got closer than the figures suggest, that said i think my politics back then were closer to Lord anthony wedgewood benn (or tony benn to his friends), luckily i grew up.