ebay scam DD setups????

**Jesta** · 17th September 2004

Hi guys i got this email and phoned the bank, basically another Direct Debit had been setup on my bank account from eBay, i didnt authorise / condone / request it.

ive taken the precaution and cancelled my legit DD as well as this one which was setup on the 9th of september!!

and changed my ebay password

what do u guys think ? (sorry i prolly just hit the panic button....)

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Dear **************************:

Your bank has approved your Direct Debit Instruction to eBay International AG. You will not have to worry about initiating your monthly payments on your account. eBay will automatically deduct your monthly invoice amount from your bank account 7 to 10 days after receipt of your invoice. This payment method takes effect immediately.

Here is the Direct Debit Guarantee for your information:

The Direct Debit Guarantee

* This Guarantee is offered by all Banks and Building Societies that take part in the Direct Debit Scheme.
* The efficiency and security of the Scheme is monitored and protected by your own Bank or Building Society.
* If the amounts to be paid or the payment dates change JPMC Re: eBay will notify you 10 working days in advance of your account being debited or as otherwise agreed.
* If an error is made by JPMC Re: eBay or your Bank or Building Society, you are guaranteed full and immediate refund from your branch of the amount paid.
* You can cancel a Direct Debit at any time by writing to your Bank or Building Society.
* If you choose to cancel your Direct Debit arrangement, please also send a copy of your letter to us.

Thank You!

eBay International AG

**vgopal** · 18th September 2004

ive got the exact same massage the other day!

dont know what to think of it now :nowords:

**Mule** · 18th September 2004

Its not a scam. The fact that you've blanked out your name means that they knew your name in the first place.

Try reading terms and conditions before using your credit/debit card.

**Jesta** · 18th September 2004

Originally Posted by Mule

Its not a scam. The fact that you've blanked out your name means that they knew your name in the first place.

Try reading terms and conditions before using your credit/debit card.

its just odd, why would they setup a DD on my account (on top of the EXISTING active one?)

who are :
If an error is made by JPMC Re: eBay or your Bank or Building Society, you are guaranteed full and immediate refund from your branch of the amount paid.
?

why is the follwoing in the email header??
Comment: 0.0.0

i blanked out my email address as i didnt wanna post it on a public forrum
:nowords:

**hxbro** · 18th September 2004

the headers are valid so it's come from ebay, looking through other emails they also have comment: 0.0.0. I'd contact ebay and ask them why they needed to setup another direct debit

**Mule** · 18th September 2004

Originally Posted by Jesta

i blanked out my email address as i didnt wanna post it on a public forrum
:nowords:

Why not? Dont you trust us? I promise I wont send you pictures that are so obscene they will not only get you fired but possibly institutionalized aswell.

**neo2810** · 20th September 2004

Originally Posted by Jesta

its just odd, why would they setup a DD on my account (on top of the EXISTING active one?)

who are :
If an error is made by JPMC Re: eBay or your Bank or Building Society, you are guaranteed full and immediate refund from your branch of the amount paid.
?

why is the follwoing in the email header??
Comment: 0.0.0

i blanked out my email address as i didnt wanna post it on a public forrum
:nowords:

JPMC are JP Morgan Chase, of the Chase Group of banks....

**LUCKY7** · 31st October 2004

Dont know if this is relevant but few weeks ago got official looking e-mail from e-bay or thats who i thought it was , had all the same graphics headings etc even linked to a page which looked for all intents and purpose tobe official
anyway i started filling in info the started to get sus when i looked at some fo the info asked for eg passwords for e-bay and paypal as well as bank account number and sort code security numbers for debit card and post code ,
anyway sent copy of page to e-bay fraud cancelled my user name and passowrd as well as informing bank . i then got reply from e-bay and fraud prevention this scam has apparently been sent out to thousands of users and some have been ripped off big time so be careful folks :grr:

**neo2810** · 1st November 2004

Originally Posted by LUCKY7

Dont know if this is relevant but few weeks ago got official looking e-mail from e-bay or thats who i thought it was , had all the same graphics headings etc even linked to a page which looked for all intents and purpose tobe official
anyway i started filling in info the started to get sus when i looked at some fo the info asked for eg passwords for e-bay and paypal as well as bank account number and sort code security numbers for debit card and post code ,
anyway sent copy of page to e-bay fraud cancelled my user name and passowrd as well as informing bank . i then got reply from e-bay and fraud prevention this scam has apparently been sent out to thousands of users and some have been ripped off big time so be careful folks :grr:

Will folk NEVER learn...??!! No reputable company will EVER send an email with a link to a site asking for any personal security details. If you get an email of that sort (no matter HOW authentic it looks) IT'S A SCAM, and if you're ignorant enough to fill in the details and send, then you're going to get stung. There has been enough publicity about these sorts of scams to stop people falling for them, but no, they still are.

btw... I'm not getting at you Lucky. Good on you to spot the scam, and good of you to advertise it here. :thumbs

If you are ever asked for personal info, call the company direct, that will always verify to authenticity...

**ShadowMoses** · 1st November 2004

Originally Posted by neo2810

Will folk NEVER learn...??!! No reputable company will EVER send an email with a link to a site asking for any personal security details. If you get an email of that sort (no matter HOW authentic it looks) IT'S A SCAM, and if you're ignorant enough to fill in the details and send, then you're going to get stung. There has been enough publicity about these sorts of scams to stop people falling for them, but no, they still are.

btw... I'm not getting at you Lucky. Good on you to spot the scam, and good of you to advertise it here. :thumbs

If you are ever asked for personal info, call the company direct, that will always verify to authenticity...

well put,

Tesco's phoned me asking for details to feliver my shopping, like bank numbers. I refused and they said "we need the details or we cant send your shopping."

So i asked for her number and checked it and phoned back, explained why and they were fine with it.

reccomend everyone does the same :tongue

Moses

**urbsy** · 1st November 2004

I got the same mail from ebay, but it must be legit as on my statement it now says "will be deducted from your bank account on ..." .
I did apply for a direct debit a long while ago but never sent the signed form back in, so it does seem a bit strange how they got it set up without my signature though.

urbsy

**DarkLadySuccubus** · 16th December 2004

Talking about ebay DD scams, I have spent the past two days trying to find out why my account overview said it had recieved two DD's for my seller fees, on the 31st oct and the 5th dec, just to find out yesterday through a letter from bank demanding charges from me to cover the cost of an unpaid DD to another firm, because the money in bank for that firm was used up by Ebay taking both them so called paid seller fees out of my account on the 8th dec. If after i recieve my invoice from Ebay stating my bank will be debitted within 5-10 days, why did it take them 6 weeks to debit the first one and over 2 weeks for the second. Also the phoine number given to my bank from Ebay with my DD mandate, is nothing more than a message that says to contact ebay "go into my account and click on customer services" As if my bank can do that.:annoyed: :censored

Does that mean that this makes them payable for my charges, as the Direct Debits where not took out in the date times given to me?

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<LI>If the amounts to be paid or the payment dates change JPMC Re: eBay will notify you 10 working days in advance of your account being debited or as otherwise agreed
<LI>If an error is made by JPMC Re: eBay or your Bank or Building Society, you are guaranteed a full and immediate refund for your branch of the amount paid
<LI>You can cancel a Direct debit at any time by writing to your Bank or /Building Society. Please also send a copy of your letter to us.

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**barakuda** · 19th December 2004

The direct debit guarantee isn't much use in my experience (but my experience of relying on it is only one time). I got a new flexible mortage which meant paying my salary into a new account. The new bank promised to move all my direct debits from the old account which they did. I moved all the funds across too apart from a few quid. Guess what? The old bank didn't cancel the DD's. When the old DD's started to hit the account got overdrawn and I got a snotty letter asking for OD charges. Now I don't exactly know how these two banks managed to cock this simple transfer up between them, but I'm covered by the DD guarantee right?

I called the old bank back asking them to rectify their mistake and give me my immediate refund, but they were being arseholes about it. Eventually I got to speak to the manager who agreed to waive the charges "just this one time". The bastard made it sound like he was doing me a favour! Anyway, mini rant over.

**Imran** · 19th December 2004

One of my best friends has just been hit by this scam!

HE HAS HAD �300 taken from his bank account and spent most of the last two days phoning ebay then paypal and then the bank trying to sort it out!

Ebay said it was Paypal, Paypal have confirmed it definitely isnt them!!!!

Thanks this helps clarify matters greatly!

People BEWARE!!!

Im

**DarkLadySuccubus** · 19th December 2004

hi inram

dont suppose you know how your mate got actual number to call ebay? like i said before the number they gave my bank is nothing more than a recorded message which doesnt' give any other number. orthough i sent an email to ebay, i still havent' recieved a reply!plus i cant find any other numbers to call them directly.