centering a HTML frames page in another

[whatnow]

I know this problem is a simple on but it always gives me grief when I try to do it. I've got a HTML page that I want to load directly in the center (vertically and ohrizonatally) of another page which will act as a boarder.

Am I best off using frames, tables or CSS?

sorry for such a easy question too, I just get really crap when it comes to not knowing which is the best method for doing some things and also trying to work out percentages for frame widths, they always look bad!

also I really need to conform to WC3 html standards, so to my knowledge I cant use percentages anyway as from my memory they are unsupported...but I'd love to be wrong on that.

[ShadowMoses]

tables are best mate, if you want a frame in it use an iframe inside the <td> tag

believe it goes somet like this

<td><iframe name="mainpage"></td>

not too sure, a google search on iframes will find it lol.

i personally dont use frames, php and includes is better, but when not in php i just use tables!

Moses

[whatnow]

thanks for the help (again) moses,

I will look into iframes, thanks.

I can't use anything like PHP, it's for a NHS website and they can't have anything that requires any new technology, not even flash...old buggers.

I also was wondering, the page i'm making has a grid of images that center around a scrolling text box. Simply put what would be the best way to do this, or can someone show me a site that does use it but doesn't have any server language or flash etc...

really appreciate help, it's lovely.

edit: iframes seem to be the winner here, but if anyone has a good suggestion I'd like to hear it.

[graham.edmon]

I have to point out here that....

1. Frames are bad! search engine spiders have major problems with them, indexes don't like them, can lead to a confusing interface.. etc etc etc...
2. iFrames are bad! lack of support.. newer browsers do support them.. although support is inconsitent.


for all of what you are doing the most backward compatible way of doing it is through tables... you could use a version of CSS to do much of it, but that creates its own problems in its self..