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    Default Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    Champions League boost for trio


    Liverpool seeded for qualifiers
    Slavia Prague rage at seed snub

    Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United have been named among the top tier of seeds for the Champions League.
    But under Uefa's coefficients system, which are used to calculate each team's seedings, Chelsea will be among the second group of eight seeded teams.

    Arsenal and Chelsea enter at the group stage, while the other three English teams face qualfying games.

    Everton's lowly status - they are ranked 42nd - means they could face tough opponents in qualfying rounds.

    David Moyes' side will be in the fourth and lowest group should they qualify.

    Both Everton and Manchester United enter the competition at the third and final qualifying round - but Moyes' teams low ranking means they could face Inter Milan, Sporting Lisbon or even Liverpool to make it into the group stage.

    Arsenal and Chelsea have automatically qualified for the group stage.

    But the seeding system means Chelsea could find themselves in a group with either Real Madrid, AC Milan, Barcelona, Inter Milan or Bayern Munich.

    Jose Mourinho's team could even face Liverpool, who have no 'country protection' after being given special admittance into the qualifying rounds of the competition to defend their trophy.

    Celtic's strong ranking - 21st in the list - should guarantee them seeding for the second and final qualifying rounds - and Rangers would almost certainly be seeded as well in their qualifying round.

    Liverpool have three qualifying rounds to surmount but in each round would be seeded and avoid the strongest opposition teams.

    The Champions League draw for the first qualfying round takes place on Friday.

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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    So Liverpool have a lucky run and are seeded higher than Chelsea??

    Suppose it don't matter too much, as they'll get knocked out in the qualifiers.
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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    I have a problem with the Champs League seedings.

    First filter: If an English team wins or comes second in the league, they are automaticlly put into the group stage. If you finish third or fourth you have to qualify.

    Thats fair enough, makes sense and is fair

    Second Filter: If teams who needed to qualify actually do qualify for the group stage, of which there is a high probability in Man Utds case due to there seeding, then they can potentially get a higher seeding in the pools.

    This I think is unfair.

    I think that the seeding of the teams from countries of multiple entries should give the higher placed teams from their leagues the better seeding.

    Just my opinion

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    Disgraceful that a Slovakian team were kicked out to make way for Liverpool, and now Slavia Prague have lost their seeding so Liverpool can have it. I always said the winners deserved to defend their trophy but at the expense of other teams is a bit silly. POWER TO THE G14!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    what IS a disgrace, is Everton losing 7-0 to the team that finished 1 place above them....
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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    Quote Originally Posted by Snotty
    Disgraceful that a Slovakian team were kicked out to make way for Liverpool, and now Slavia Prague have lost their seeding so Liverpool can have it. I always said the winners deserved to defend their trophy but at the expense of other teams is a bit silly. POWER TO THE G14!!!!!!!!!!!!
    To be quite honest m8, I am sick of reading your posts whingeing about Liverpool this, Liverpool that.

    If I was you I would put all your energies into worrying about Everton in Europe, not Liverpool,,, Everton need it more than us.

    I respect the fact that Everton got into the C/L, they played well last season and deserve thier place. Now if the FA had kicked them out and put Liverpool in I could understand it. BUT THEY DIDNT m8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Termy
    To be quite honest m8, I am sick of reading your posts whingeing about Liverpool this, Liverpool that.

    If I was you I would put all your energies into worrying about Everton in Europe, not Liverpool,,, Everton need it more than us.

    I respect the fact that Everton got into the C/L, they played well last season and deserve thier place. Now if the FA had kicked them out and put Liverpool in I could understand it. BUT THEY DIDNT m8.
    The consequences of you lot getting in is that you got some Welsh pub team today, you will probably get piss easy teams all the way up to the group stages whereas we''ll certainly end up drawing a major European force

    Also you will be getting 10% of the TV revenue whereas we get just 12.5% of the pool despite us qualifying fair and square

    If you don't like my posts, dont read em, but it pisses me off that I've spent a fcuking ton watching Everton last season DESERVEDLY finish 4th place and qualify for the CL and you lot getting in through the back door (via a rule change which I had no problem with, you are the Champions after all - read my posts properly for a change) and it seems we are losing out on millions of pounds of TV money now

    My problem is the TV pool money and the seedings thing (just what's the fcuking point in entering you at the 1st round, giving you a Welsh team, then probably a few more shit teams til you do reach the group stages - it's a farce) and the fact other teams from Eastern Europe are being used as scapegoats to allow the G14 to progress...fcuking disgrace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Termy
    If I was you I would put all your energies into worrying about Everton in Europe, not Liverpool,,, Everton need it more than us.
    Actually re-reading it YOU need it more than us

    You're the club who have spent millions upon millions only to see your club change from the biggest and best in Britain to the 5th best In England. The fact you won the Euro cup doesn't disguise the fact you are no longer a top 3 English club and team...cheers
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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    Quote Originally Posted by Snotty
    Actually re-reading it YOU need it more than us

    You're the club who have spent millions upon millions only to see your club change from the biggest and best in Britain to the 5th best In England. The fact you won the Euro cup doesn't disguise the fact you are no longer a top 3 English club and team...cheers
    We weren't top 3 last season - granted. But who know's whats going to happen next season?
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    Am just thinkin long term...can't see you getting inside the top 3...and being totally honest, as other footie fans on here will vouch, they are a class above everyone else
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner
    But who know's whats going to happen next season?

    chelski 1st
    arse 2nd
    scum u 3rd

    and just about everyone knows it

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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    Quote Originally Posted by ABCMan
    chelski 1st
    arse 2nd
    scum u 3rd

    and just about everyone knows it
    United 3rd?? you having a laugh!!

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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    Unfortunately have to agree with ABCMan, Liverpool are at the moment the 4th best side in England! (Not the 5th best Side Snotty!) - Next Season who knows?

    Chelsea and Arsenal I would say are too close to call, Man U are then slightly behind, followed by Liverpool.

    No offence but for some the arguments you could sat that a team that got -1 goal difference throughout the year DOES NOT deserve to be fourth, or even in the Champions League thats my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -G-Man-
    United 3rd?? you having a laugh!!
    yeah you wish pal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imran
    , Liverpool are at the moment the 4th best side in England! (Not the 5th best Side Snotty!) - Next Season who knows?
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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    can't wait for season to start its gonna be ...interesting

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    Default Re: Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U top seeds for Champions League!

    I think Everton could do a bit of a southampton. Have a comparatively good season, then get relegated the next
    Unless they remember how to score that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epiphany
    I think Everton could do a bit of a southampton. Have a comparatively good season, then get relegated the next
    Unless they remember how to score that is
    Beattie will do well next season
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    i think he's getting fatter, like mcginley at bolton remember him.
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    Not seen Beattie since the end of the season...hope he isn't coming back to pre season training with a 42DD bust. *If* he sorts himself out physically he will do well no question
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