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    Default xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    Just read this over at xbox scene. They have managed to hack the firmware on the xbox dvd drive so that it will boot copies without a chip or softmod. The really interesting thing is that the drives are very similar to the 360. Could be a way forward.
    Anyone in the know, would this allow you to play copies on live?
    Xbox DVD Firmware Hacked
    >> From TheSpecialist on xboxhacker.net:
    Yes! I've just played a backup DVD on a XBOX 1 without any modchip/softmod, just a hacked firmware :-) This completes our work on the XBOX 1. The drive I modded was a 8050L. The good news is that the firmware in this drive is very similar to the firmware in the GDR3120, used in the XBOX 360. I think it's time for me to buy one now :-)
    Thanks to all the contributors in the firmware hacking thread!
    This hacked firmware will fake the disc detection (will trick drive to detect disc as DVDXBOX media), the xbe must still be signed though (for DVDXBOX media), so this hack will not allow to run homebrew/linux stuff, atleast not directly (if there are possible font or other exploits in retail games, this could be used as alternative to gamesave exploits to install a dashboard exploit for example).
    The finished hacked firmware (for the H-L 8050L drive) should be able to boot any MS-signed xbox executables (xbe) with DVDXBOX mediaflag and with correct regionflag (in case it's region locked) from any recordable media.
    The 8050L is the Hitachi-LG DVD drive found in newer Xboxes

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    cool, how is the upgrade done?

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    i hope they never work on LIVE...

    its an excellent service..

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    thats pretty interesting, at first thoughts I'd think that would allow backups on Live, afaik Live only checks for a modchip or unlocked HD so in theory if those 2 are ok then a backup on live would be good to go.

    Backups arent so much a problem for online gaming, its the people who mod the games to allow silly cheats who ruin the fun.

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    see ya point mate,

    but if backups worked on live the sales for games would fall through the floor, and that would have an effect on the investment into LIVE service.

    Dont get me wrong being able to play backups i'am all for it, but i do still buy alot of games so i can play on live. I dont mind paying if i'am getting a quality game with some serious lifespan, and buy playing on LIVE that seems the only way to get some serious gaming these days.....

    I'am hoping the 360 will be tinkered with so that to will play backups but i dont think if the firmware was able to be tweaked to be able to play backups i dont think the modchip companies will release details of it until they have made enough revenue from modchip sales...

    who know time will tell... anyways i'am off to get my arse kicked by some squeaky chinese kid on dead or alive 4 AGAIN... 42 hit bloody combo and i did'nt hit him once... bugger...

    Thanks alot

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    yeah i would buy LIVE games regardless, worth the money
    Im kinda wary of modding the 360 because if i lost LIVE, I would not be happy

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    Live is definately the best thing that M$ have ever done. The old way of being able to run XBMC but switch it off for normal use is perfect.
    Now if they made the 360 media center as interesting as XBMC. Now that would be the perfect console.

    Listen to the scene M$.......Pretty Please.

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    Holy shit, sounds like an excellent breakthrough! Fantastic for tight arses like me who don't wish to spend £50 a game!
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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    Interesting, but I`m sure M$ would issue an update on Live to reflash the firmware of the installed DVD drive (if this is possible) to prevent this from being allowed

    Live is good, but it is also a way to ensure updates of any exploits that are found, I mean M$ aren`t stupid.

    In saying that, if the 360 isn`t playing cipies in any way when the PS3 is released, and then the PS3 is hacked quickly, I can see PS3 going through the roof and the 360 becoming unpopular.

    Playing copies make machines, whether they like it or not...

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    Quote Originally Posted by rIKmAN
    Playing copies make machines, whether they like it or not...

    not entirely, most consumers dont have their console modded and buy originals from shops, so being able to play backups cant really make or break a console.

    my opinion anyway

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    *UPDATE* A new update from TheSpecialist and SiliconIce on xboxhacker.net:
    TheSpecialist: I now completely understand how he[bunnie when he extracted the RC4] felt :-) It was also 4 AM for me yesterday, when I inserted the patched drive into my xbox and inserting a backup for the first time, to see if it worked. I too felt great euphoria when it did Smiley However, after the 'come down' you start to realise that your work could have major impact...
    I like hacking. I always liked it. I like the process. Till now, nobody 'profited' from what I did. I'd like to keep it that way :-) People are, very kindly, already offering me hardware and even money to get a hack done for the 360. I really appreciate it, but I don't want to prosper financially in any way from my work.
    I understand that releasing this hack would have major impact. Althought I serioulsy doubt that releasing a 'firmware *patcher* is illegal, I don't want to take my chances on it :-) I think anybody who wants to do something like that should ask himself if it's worth all the trouble he might get into. I feel it's not. That's why I'm not releasing anything. I hope everybody understands :-)"

    SiliconIce: TheSpecialist has done some great work, and I understand and support his position. As always, we are working on a very slippery slope.

    God DAMN it I hope he has passed his knowledge onto others who are prepared to take the risk for our benefit
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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    ye fingers crossed



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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    what a todger, writing firmware is not illegal. Remember, updating firmware is to fix problems...so by doing that he could release a fw for the same dvd drive and say its fixing a problem under a dvd and issue the code as GPL. And as it would be GPL all hackers around would be able to improve the code as and when they please.

    But lets hope he leeks it somewhere and then it just gets flooded everywhere. Thats if the dood isn't talking pish ofcourse just to get major hits to the site.

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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    he will prob get a job from M$ thats y he made it public and says he aint releasing damn right they will contact him



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    Default Re: xbox drive firmware hacked could lead to 360 drive being hacked

    hey guys i have wrote a firmware that does the same thing works in the 360 as well but i too don't want to be nicked so will not be releasing it sorry


    did you see what i just did there!!

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