Copy protecting CD/DVD's

[enigmatix]

Hi

A friend of mine makes movies for people for occasions - weddings, bdays partys etc.

He then sells the dvd's/cd's to the people but he wants to copy protect these cds so they dont make multiple copies of this work for free and keep sending it to everyone

does anyone know what can be used

[syscon]

If the big boys of the movie / music industry cant keep there stuff private what chance has your mate, best bet is to sell the first one at his normal rate and then sell all copies at a nominal amount this will make it not worth while copying and he will make a little more profit.

[enigmatix]

there must be just something that can be used. These are only home movies. Its just so that it causes an inconvenience for them to copy. Sure if the family member has a person who knows about how to get around it fair enough.. but at least i can have some form of protection.

Anyone advice of know of any products.

[BertRoot]

I have bought a couple of home done DVDs that when you try to shrink them using DVDShrink they kick off due to CRC errors and unreadable bits but they have always been crackable by slowly using DVDDecrypter. Gives me great pleasure to then flog them on at a profit.

In answer to your question though I am sure there is something you can do but it will never be foolproof and you will always get some fucker who sees it as a challenge.

[Sanj[UK]]

cant u use a watermark??

[kracken]

http://shop.cd-writer.com/acatalog/A...TION_1226.html

any use ?

[Outcast]

Highly controversial topic.

to explain...


If a Software coder is contracted to write a programme, The Coder does NOT own the Source. He has been contracted to write that programme and the source belongs to the contracter.

If you are contracted to film a wedding/birthday/whatever ..You have benn contracted to film that event. You do NOT own the source, even if you DO own the medium it's recorded on.


In other words ... They own the film, they can do what they like with it.

[Pegasus]

You could always write a fake TOC on the disc to make it appear larger than what it is. This will stop the total numpty from copying, but anybody with even a passing knowledge of PC's & software will defeat this.

In short, there is NOTHING you can do to stop a disc being duplicated.

[Outcast]

@enigmatix

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

ie:

When you send your customer the questionaire (basically this is the basis for the titles) and you ask them what medium they want it output to (VHS or DVD), State that they get ONE in the price. If they require further copies then please state on this form or ask me on the BIG DAY. If they do this you can supply them with copies for...eg: £12.75 each. If they require copies after this date then you will need to charge them .. eg: £16.75. This is because (bullshit em a bit here) you have to reload all the artwork & project EDL into your computer again.

People need a framework to work within, it's human nature. By doing it the way I described they can cost it out.




btw.. IF they ask for the "Master Copy" which they are entitled to do then capture it straight out of the camera at a high compression level (so it lowers the quality) to an El cheapo VHS tape. You have fufilled your obligations !!

[Karoline]

This might help...

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Link removed by Pegasus
I suggest you use the 7 day lay down I am giving you to read the rules

[Northernbloke]

nice software - but from their FAQ page

How can I remove CD-Lock protection from a CD?

A couple of ways. Perhaps the easiest it to:

Unlock the CD
Copy the files from the CD to a folder on your hard drive (that removes the encryption)
Then copy the files from that folder to a clean CD.

As you would have to supply them the key before they could use the discs then this is kind of self defeating for this scenario

[Pegasus]

As you would have to supply them the key before they could use the discs then this is kind of self defeating for this scenario

That software wouldn't work in this case anyway, how on earth are you supposed to enter a password on a standalone DVD player?

btw.. IF they ask for the "Master Copy" which they are entitled to do then capture it straight out of the camera at a high compression level (so it lowers the quality) to an El cheapo VHS tape. You have fufilled your obligations !!

The "Master" copy would be considered the medium the event was first recorded on (the tape in this case), so transferring it to DVD at a piss poor bitrate would NOT count as fulfilling his obligations at all.

[Outcast]

aaah ..

Ignore me peeps.

I've only been a Videographer since 1992, I'm still a bit of a noob !!

[Shultz]

"I know Nuzzink"

[/Shultz]





clue ... IOwn the Medium.

[Pegasus]

aaah ..

Ignore me peeps.

I've only been a Videographer since 1992, I'm still a bit of a noob !!

One would hope by now that you have "mastered the art of recording pictures with a video camera" then.

clue ... IOwn the Medium.

You wanna make your mind up........5 posts ago you stated that the customer was entitled to the master copy, and making a copy of the master does not qualify the copy as the master.

[Northernbloke]

btw.. IF they ask for the "Master Copy" which they are entitled to do then capture it straight out of the camera at a high compression level (so it lowers the quality) to an El cheapo VHS tape. You have fufilled your obligations !!

Maybe i'm missing something here but I'd read that as taking a video-out feed from the camera and recording that externally instead of actually recording it to the camera first then subsequently copying it at a lower bit-rate. Am I wrong in that assumption?

Regards,

Northernbloke

[theodotcom]

Ok to clarify a few things...

The DVDr format does not support any form of copy protection.

The only way to copy protect the discs is by having them mastered (min quantity usually 1000) so its not really an option, also if you were to produce 1000 the costs for the protection are expensive, a like syscon said people can always get round it if they want to.

If you produced the work you DO own the copyright to it, photographers always own the copyright to their photos! There is no law stating you need to give the source files over to the client.

What tends to work for me is i create a professional looking dvd case cover, inlay card/booklet, full disk body printing so it all looks professional and people tend to come back for more copies because they're not just getting a dvd, the presentation is what they're willing to pay for.

Hope that helps

[Outcast]

Assuming your camera is DV

Using the Raw, unedited footage that you captured to hard drive, boost the compression in your NLE proggie and play timeline back to your camera (assuming you have DV in enabled in your camera) which will hardware decode and passthru the output to a VCR.



My camera is a Sony DCR VX9000e (getting old now) that I have Firewire in enabled.

NLE is MediaStudioPro V7

[Outcast]

@ TheDotCom

Which is the point I was trying to get over.

Make your copies as professional as you can so they cant easily recreate your artwork etc and they will buy copies from you.

As I stated in my first post... Copyright is a highly controversial subject. There are more than one view which can be deemed "correct". Depends which judge you get !!