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    Default Jail for German Holocaust denier

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=629 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>The Germans plan to introduce a holocaust denier law to the rest of the EU... My question, whatever happened to Free Speech?? As much as I disagree with the sentiments of this clown, I think that jailing him not only turns him into a martyr but also demonstrates that some speech is freer than other speech. And where does it end? e.g. if someone shouts "Hutu power" at a rally, should they also go to prison, or is this a Nazi holocaust denier law only???


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    </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=416><!-- S BO --><!-- S IIMA --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=203 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD> Ernst Zuendel wrote a book extolling the virtues of Hitler



    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA --><!-- S SF -->A German Holocaust denier who regularly lavished praise on Adolf Hitler has been sentenced to five years in jail by a German court.
    Ernst Zuendel was convicted of 14 counts of inciting racial hatred and for denying that the Nazis killed six million Jews during World War II.
    He received the maximum sentence under German law which bans Holocaust denial.
    Zuendel moved to Canada in 1958 but was judged a national security threat and deported back to Germany in 2005. <!-- E SF -->
    The 67-year-old once published a book called The Hitler We Loved and Why, and described the former Nazi leader as "a decent and very peaceful man".
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    During his trial in the western German city of Mannheim, he was accused of using "pseudo-scientific" methods to try to rewrite the accepted history of the Nazi Holocaust in 14 pieces of written work and internet publications.
    Zuendel had denied the charges, asserting his right to free speech, and questioned the constitutionality of the laws being used against him.
    Germany hopes to make Holocaust denial a crime across the EU as part of a package of laws it wants to introduce during its presidency of the bloc. Berlin is also set to outline plans to ban Nazi symbols like the swastika, which, like denying the massacre of the Jews, is already outlawed in Germany. However, correspondents says such moves may be seen as curtailing freedom of speech and could prove controversial in several member states.

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    Default Re: Jail for German Holocaust denier

    seems a bit daft to me i mean people have a right to an opinion?

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    Default Re: Jail for German Holocaust denier

    but if that opinion stirs up racial hatred....

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    Default Re: Jail for German Holocaust denier

    Quote Originally Posted by blacksheep View Post
    but if that opinion stirs up racial hatred....
    So why not make do with the current race hate laws?

    The point is that thinking, writing or saying that the holocaust was a non-event is enough to get you banged up in several European countries including Austria, France and Germany. Do we really want to follow their lead? To quote Voltaire:- 'I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it'
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    Default Re: Jail for German Holocaust denier

    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    So why not make do with the current race hate laws?

    The point is that thinking, writing or saying that the holocaust was a non-event is enough to get you banged up in several European countries including Austria, France and Germany. Do we really want to follow their lead? To quote Voltaire:- 'I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it'
    I agree with you GTI. Current race laws should be enough to deal with this, we don't need another specialist law as for me that is only more discrimination. He has a right to say what he wants, and if that incites racial hatred then fine, jail him under that.

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