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    this could be shit or ive just been living with my head up my arse as usual but my mate said you can pay a set fee and go on a electrician , buliders, plumbing crash courses and come out with a reconized certificate ? can anybody shed any light on this?
    looking for a change of direction in my life and a trade looks the way forward?

    cheers guys
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    No heard of a crash course, sounds interesting.
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    In my labs we had this guy from Nikon who would come in once every few months and service the microscopes. By service I mean dust them down, clean the objective lens, drop of oil on the rack and fuck all else. One day I saw his invoice on my managers desk... £350 +VAT for service of 3 Nikon FN-1 microscopes

    If you can get a gig where you work for a scientific instruments company, do minor maintenance but charge silly money you'll be laughing. Alternatively you could consider training to be an Elf and Safety inspector.. what a fucking joke.

    Do excuse me if you're of the more hard working variety... I just love the thought of doing nothing and being paid.

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    It's the same as anything really, you can buy a degree online which means jack shit.

    If you're seriously interested in a change of careers I can help, but a quick plumbing course is only gonna cost you money and reward you with a worthless certificate.

    Best to go the long way I'm afraid - night school.

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    It's the same as anything really, you can buy a degree online which means jack shit.

    If you're seriously interested in a change of careers I can help, but a quick plumbing course is only gonna cost you money and reward you with a worthless certificate.

    Best to go the long way I'm afraid - night school.

    BTW - your sig is shit . You know blazing saddles is satirical?
    my mate said that he went on the course obviously got a certificate. but at least it got his foot in the door he got a job as a plumber but he's helping a more experienced plumber who can teach him his experience.
    im asking basically whats the best way and easiest (cheapest way) to change direction? im hard working and focused so i know i can do it its just how to get there .

    [QUOTEBTW - your sig is shit . You know blazing saddles is satirical?[/QUOTE]

    yes it is satire . but some people will get offended still by the content. real life and satire whats the difference when it comes to films they should be shown in their own right especially the time and period there made. i understand if a film came out now and had blatant offensive racist material cos its not the time or the place.
    i think its just a bit hypocritical.
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    I've looked into this earlier this year myself and it is, in theory, possible, but from my own enquiries, a waste of your money.

    Although you can get in your hands a recognised certificate, the problem with that is that you don't have site experience and that is a major reason you will find many tradespeople won't touch you with a barge pole. so, in essence, I have come to the conclusion that unless you are very lucky and end up getting work through 'Dave - don't- give-a-shit', or want to be a tradesmans hoppo for a couple of years etc. It's the sort of thing to learn from the bottom and do your time in the traditional way.
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    A mate recently qualified to be a sparkie, he was on the course part time for 2 years and still needs to do a few (much much smaller) courses to actually be pulling in good money - even after the 2 year course he's still on I think it was £9.50/hr.

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    local colleges dont start till next year now .
    was looking at www.ucast.ac.uk which looks good but i think id do better in a learning mode rather than sitting in class . i need to be shown how to do things rather than sitting down taking notes but not sure if its like that in college on these type courses i wanna do. just a weakness of myn I like the hands on approach, no jokes please hehe.
    maybe just me bein scared goin back to a school sort of environment
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    Dunno bout the rest but me sparkie mate told me very soon there will be no work left for people without qualifications. I think he said other trades were going that way as well, but dont quote me on that as I was a bit pissed when he told me a while ago.

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    ill be starting a trade as a sparks soon. theres no substitute for time. long way is the only way i reckon
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    tbh imnot bothered how long it takes , I just know im at a stage in my life where i need to do summat different and with good prospects. its all about the future
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    As others have said, experience is key. ATM I am labouring and learning with a general builder and some time I plan to go and get some paperwork to go with it. Bottom up with time seems the best way.

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    you can pay for as many coarses as you want but nothing beats experence m8
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    This is the one most companies use ,they also have various other types of awards on different companies ,but generally it takes about 6 months

    _http://www.ppltraining.co.uk/

    The problem with this is people who generally go on this type of course dont have experience but set up a small jobbing firm and destroy faith in tradesmen ,if you want to become a plumber ,it might suit to get one of these courses under your belt and start with a large company for a few years to build up the experience needed to go into private housing .The normal time for a trade is 4-5 years ,1 week block release .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelTrotter View Post
    local colleges dont start till next year now .
    was looking at www.ucast.ac.uk which looks good but i think id do better in a learning mode rather than sitting in class . i need to be shown how to do things rather than sitting down taking notes but not sure if its like that in college on these type courses i wanna do. just a weakness of myn I like the hands on approach, no jokes please hehe.
    maybe just me bein scared goin back to a school sort of environment
    You'll find a lot of part time courses start in January, so don't give up the search yet!

    As for the school/college thing - you'll find that 80% of the course will be "hands on" and doing pratical things. Of course there will be paperwork involved, but it will be nothing like the "school" you remember!

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    cheers just rang salford, manchester and bolton universities for a prospectus gonna look at some electric engineering courses and see what they say when i apply. hope i get something.
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    electrical engineering is completely different to any trade. while i was studying engineering there were a lot of people there who did it because they thought they were good with there hands. big mistake.

    most dropped out after realising that theres very little to do with your hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismaher2007 View Post
    electrical engineering is completely different to any trade. while i was studying engineering there were a lot of people there who did it because they thought they were good with there hands. big mistake.

    most dropped out after realising that theres very little to do with your hands.
    totally agree, i brushed this side while on a electrical/electronics/mechanical degree coure, hadn't decided which direction i was going for at the time but building good credits, decided in the end for electronics and did 8 years in the industry (but am now a mechanic )
    back to the subject, most was mathematics and theory work, can be intense at times but you do get the hang of it. if you want to go for the big bucks, try something in the areas of high voltage engineering, technician or even cable jointing, good money to be had and the option of travelling, especially in iraq,afganistan and dubai at the mo, and there's the government incentive with building more nuclear power stations in this country which are going to need skilled peeps when the time comes.

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    i always wanted to become an electrician.but wanted to go to college just for the sake of going i did building engineering thinking it would be most like a trade. ended up being about 90% maths. how wrong was i?
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