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    Default Re: Zionist 's murder scores of civilians

    This is bollocks. It's the equivalent of us carpet bombing the Falls Road after an IRA bombing. It never happened and for good reason.

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    Default Re: Zionist 's murder scores of civilians

    when i said that i wasnt referring to these attacks, i was referring to all the attacks from the zionists. infact theyve probably killed thousands of civilians in all these years.

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    Carl google Palliwood or pallywood (watch some of the videos) and see what you make of it.

    If even half of it is true its shocking.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood
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    Thanks for providing the link - it is always good to try to understand things from both sides. However as someone who doesn't often actively read up on the subject, I have to say the majority of what I am bombarded with in the media is close to the opposite.

    Okay what I see may not be factuallly incorrect, but making a much bigger deal about one side getting hit by suicide bombers etc. with a lot less reporting on the effects on the other side of the same conflict(getting attacked by an organised army rather than a few nutters), often without any history or context is equally manipulative.

    Edit: Simple way to put it - you have to fight fire with fire. Bush - wmd's - amount of dead iraqi's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    Thanks for providing the link - it is always good to try to understand things from both sides. However as someone who doesn't often actively read up on the subject, I have to say the majority of what I am bombarded with in the media is close to the opposite.

    Okay what I see may not be factuallly incorrect, but making a much bigger deal about one side getting hit by suicide bombers etc. with a lot less reporting on the effects on the other side of the same conflict(getting attacked by an organised army rather than a few nutters), often without any history or context is equally manipulative.
    I don't disagree with any of what you said here mate.

    Just stay openminded on things.
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    hamas did not seize power, they were freely elected. People of gaza spoke, its the rest of a world that can't accept hamas.

    If we were in a similar position and our land was being stolen, would you not fight? Just have a look the map of israel today and go back over the years, it is nothing more than a land grab.

    What amazes me is Egypt were well aware of what was going to happen, The muslim countries are unwilling to help the palestinians because it is resistance to israel by proxy. If they wanted, all the palestinans could be made free from this hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2 View Post
    Carl google Palliwood or pallywood (watch some of the videos) and see what you make of it.

    If even half of it is true its shocking.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood
    Do you really think that wikipedia page is based on fact?

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    May be I just happen to be watching/readining a bad selection of news etc. As my ignorance is showing me up, I had better retire from the debate, but I added an edit to my earlier post which I think may have some relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    Thanks for providing the link - it is always good to try to understand things from both sides. However as someone who doesn't often actively read up on the subject, I have to say the majority of what I am bombarded with in the media is close to the opposite.

    Okay what I see may not be factuallly incorrect, but making a much bigger deal about one side getting hit by suicide bombers etc. with a lot less reporting on the effects on the other side of the same conflict(getting attacked by an organised army rather than a few nutters), often without any history or context is equally manipulative.

    Edit: Simple way to put it - you have to fight fire with fire. Bush - wmd's - amount of dead iraqi's?
    i see lot of that which is why i asked..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    May be I just happen to be watching/readining a bad selection of news etc. As my ignorance is showing me up, I had better retire from the debate, but I added an edit to my earlier post which I think may have some relevance.
    Don't bail out, the world needs to know how fucked up this is. Many just accept it as the norm. Israel and her leaders should be sat in front of the war crimes tribunal at the Hague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    Do you really think that wikipedia page is based on fact?
    Did I for one minute say that if so please point out where ?

    Its the films I'd like people to take a look and as stated if only half of it is true then its really shocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    hamas did not seize power, they were freely elected. People of gaza spoke, its the rest of a world that can't accept hamas.

    If we were in a similar position and our land was being stolen, would you not fight? Just have a look the map of israel today and go back over the years, it is nothing more than a land grab.

    What amazes me is Egypt were well aware of what was going to happen, The muslim countries are unwilling to help the palestinians because it is resistance to israel by proxy. If they wanted, all the palestinans could be made free from this hell.

    I don't think you really know as much as you claim to know mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2 View Post
    Did I for one minute say that if so please point out where ?

    Its the films I'd like people to take a look and as stated if only half of it is true then its really shocking.
    We're debatiing a response to rocket attacks that have killed no civilians. If you can justify the response, please go ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    We're debatiing a response to rocket attacks that have killed no civilians. If you can justify the response, please go ahead.
    Do I have too ? I'm not the Israeli Prime minister and haven't got a clue what goes on in his head.

    All I have to ask is was it the intent of Hamas when they kept firing these rockets not to kill anyone ?

    If it was it would seem strange as they seem to adopt a different view when it comes to sending in suicide bombers to town centers and packed buses.
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    everyone is sat back while people are being butchered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    its one rule for them and another for all others !!!!!

    all the U.N is saying stop , while they send in F-16'S into one of the most desnely populated places on the planet and fire rockets into hundreds of people


    this is another piss take like when they went into lebanon

    you can see why people strap bombs to themselves !!

    im sure there will be a terrorist attack somewhere soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudey View Post
    everyone is sat back while people are being butchered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you can see why a certain german with a tash didint like them
    its one rule for them and another for all others !!!!!
    I wouldn't go there mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudey View Post
    you can see why a certain german with a tash didint like them
    Posts like that don't do the palestinians any favours at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudey View Post

    you can see why a certain german with a tash didint like them
    its one rule for them and another for all others !!!!!
    Fuck me you arsehole!! I've been staying out of this one but you need to retract that shite!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudey View Post
    everyone is sat back while people are being butchered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you can see why a certain german with a tash didint like them
    its one rule for them and another for all others !!!!!

    all the U.N is saying stop , while they send in F-16'S into one of the most desnely populated places on the planet and fire rockets into hundreds of people


    this is another piss take like when they went into lebanon

    you can see why people strap bombs to themselves !!

    im sure there will be a terrorist attack somewhere soon

    Posts like this are the result of Finsbury Park style preachings brainwashing people.

    Can't you see how hypocritcal your whole post is ?
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    Default Re: Zionist 's murder scores of civilians

    There is a difference between jews and zionists,

    I have great admiration for jews, as a people they have been blessed with knowledge, from pre-biblical to the current times many great discoveries has come from jews.

    as a side note -- There are many jews living in muslim countries, just look at Iran, they live in peace, even Ahmedenijad makes a point about the difference between a jew and a zionist

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