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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    This article clarifies the 1080p situation (pre hdmi)....Seems it is down to the TV, and according to the article, very few TV's can accept 1080p over component or vga.

    http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html

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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    No mate what I mean is, can you use the power line ethernet adapter to connect to live, rather than using the wireless card.

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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    Quote Originally Posted by fastlegs_ View Post
    No mate what I mean is, can you use the power line ethernet adapter to connect to live, rather than using the wireless card.

    Thats how I connnect on mine.

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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    the dark knight rip you got failed to play on my popcorn hour rare but some videos just dont work thats prob the same thing for the WD player, get the 40gig blue ray rip that one works fine

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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    Quote Originally Posted by fastlegs_ View Post
    No mate what I mean is, can you use the power line ethernet adapter to connect to live, rather than using the wireless card.
    Yep. It's exactly the same as plugging a network cable in the back of the router and the other end into your xbox... except you're using these adapters to run the signal over the mains wiring in your house.

    Both adapters will need to be on the same mains wiring runs but you'll only have multiple runs if you live in a real big house...

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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.James View Post
    impossible over 54mb. there's nowhere near enough bandwidth. especially if the pc you're streaming from is wireless too.

    you might wanna check out something like this, i'm streaming 1080p with them:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Pair-Of-20...1%7C240%3A1318
    I have a 1080p copy of Dark night (About 13gig in total) that streams fine to my PS3 - not tried it to the 360 yet but it works okay over wifi for me. There was a little stuttering in the really high action sequences but this was a much higher bitrate than the usual DVD9 MKV files so I was expecting it.

    My router is a 54G Speedtouch and the PS3 is using it internal wifi. It's all down to the bitrate used really but if you want 1080p that works flawlessly you will need to go 108mbps really to get the sustained high bitrate.

    54mpbs will give a theoretical max of 6.75 megabytes per second - of course in real terms that will more likely be a lot less. It's also very dependant on the equipment manufacturers and other environmental issues such as mobile phones, cordless digital phones and other traffic in the 2.4ghz spectrum that will all add to bring down the max speed of your wifi.

    802.11n is much better and adapts to the environment more.
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    Default Re: the 360 and 1080p

    i have a samsung, runs 1080p over conponant no worrys, the never had a problem, would say its the tv mate, not the 360

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    My sony tv runs 1080p over component quite happily, better pic than hdmi too. Although hddvd films only run in 1080i over component as there is no copy protection built in to component spec. But all my wmv 1080p films work nicely at 1080p
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilBoB View Post
    I have a 1080p copy of Dark night (About 13gig in total) that streams fine... There was a little stuttering in the really high action sequences...
    Which is it?

    1080p rips can run at around 40mbs/sec. The maximum you'll get from a 54mb router is around 25mb/sec. Download 13gb 1080p transformers and you'll see how bad wireless is for 1080p streaming... It's 1 or 2 seconds video per1 second pause...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaggard View Post
    If any manufacturer was going to disable 1080p over component it would be Sony but mine works with a pre-hdmi 360 over component and a PS3 over hdmi.
    Interestingly my old sony 40W2000 doesn't support 1080p over component but my new 52W4500 does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.James View Post
    Which is it?

    1080p rips can run at around 40mbs/sec. The maximum you'll get from a 54mb router is around 25mb/sec. Download 13gb 1080p transformers and you'll see how bad wireless is for 1080p streaming... It's 1 or 2 seconds video per1 second pause...
    Bluray has a max of 40MBPS for video. I'm not streaming the original BDROM versions. These are MKV containers and therefore have been reencoded and a much lower bitrate. A DVD9 1080p will typically run at around 9mbps!

    Oh - and btw - Panasonics will not allow 1080p over component
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilBoB View Post
    Bluray has a max of 40MBPS for video. I'm not streaming the original BDROM versions. These are MKV containers and therefore have been reencoded and a much lower bitrate. A DVD9 1080p will typically run at around 9mbps!

    Oh - and btw - Panasonics will not allow 1080p over component
    It's 40mbps not 40MBps, that would just be insane. There's also 28mbps for audio so although the theoretical max is 68mbps you will of course rarley see anything that will hit these peaks for an extended period of time.

    The 12gb 1080p of transformers runs at an average of 41mbps. Pit this against a 54mb router. Which has a speed of about 21mb bandwidth once overheads are taken into account and you're already 20mb short.

    This is assuming that the signal strenth is 100%, there's no interference and that the wireless pc is the only one on the network... If you add all 3 of these factors into the mix then it's highly unlikely that your DVD9 will stream without stuttering either...

    Espcially if you've got a mrs like mine who likes to stream sex in the city off the PC wirelessly to her laptop at the same time!!

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