Cinavia

[adriand]

Ive been reading a lot about cinavia protection in recent posts with the latest PS3 firmware update. It looks like there are trying to stop you watching backups on your PS3.

[Mr Men]

I put a Film on a dvd and ran it through my ps3 and after 15seconds Cinavia kicked in and would not read the disc.

[EvilBoB]

Here's an old article : http://www.afterdawn.com/news/articl...aim_at_pirates Apparantly works with Telesyncs too as it's in the audio instead of the picture. I think this will be fairly easy to get around though.

[Mr Men]

Here's an old article : http://www.afterdawn.com/news/articl...aim_at_pirates Apparantly works with Telesyncs too as it's in the audio instead of the picture. I think this will be fairly easy to get around though.

Interesting

by the way the film that gave me the cinavia pop up was The Losers DVDSCR XViD

[Agent47]

I get this with Splice.PAL.DVD.R5.CUSTOM.NL.SRT.

[Neo\nsc]

I had same problem with the losers m8 and wolfman

[steve10574]

is this only dvd is it ok if you stream it?

[trueblue924]

Its actually inside the audio track and wont work on any blue ray player as they have an update to try and stop copys being played i looked a while back and i coundnt find a way round it with the dvd copy or streaming. it will work fine on anything that has not got this update.

[Neo\nsc]

is this only dvd is it ok if you stream it?

No m8 i was streaming

[Ashley]

I had the same problem with The Losers. Pain in the ass.

[garagekru]

What's this all about then? Stopping xvids working?

[raelmadrid]

official website blurb:

http://www.cinavia.com/languages/eng...echnology.html

this was implemented (and worked) on a recent telysync of sex and the city 2

clever shit!

[Soulassassin]

So they are trying to stop the one thing left that I actually use my playstation 3 for?

[Agent47]

What's this all about then? Stopping xvids working?

yip I also tried an xvid rip of Splice and that got the Cinavia message.

Does this mean the same is going to happen for MKV stuffed converted to VOB for playback on the PS3.

[raelmadrid]

yip I also tried an xvid rip of Splice and that got the Cinavia message.

Does this mean the same is going to happen for MKV stuffed converted to VOB for playback on the PS3.

i would imagine if the 'secret signal' can stay embedded from someone filing the film in the cinema then i would say yes

[Mystical_2K]

just been reading up about it, very clever stuff indeed, however its just going to put people off buying a blueray player etc. as more and more people are downloading their own stuff now

[WRATH OF BOD]

so if we dont update the ps3 will this not be installed?

[raelmadrid]

so if we dont update the ps3 will this not be installed?

correct, i'm still on 3.15 anyway waiting for geohot to get his finger out

huge discussion and possible solutions here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155777

A little background for those that don't fully get how it works. They embed an (inaudible lol) signal into the audio stream. The signal will survive all re-encoding attempts and even analog recording, and yes, this has been tested by others. So no matter what format you think you can convert it to, the Cinavia signal will still be present and detectable on Cinavia enabled equipment.

However, and here's the kicker, it *REQUIRES* a Cinavia enabled player to detect the signal and then follow the "rules" for playback. (Message 1 is typically a CAM recording, Message 3 is typically a copied Blu-ray recording). If the player doesn't know how to detect it, or simply doesn't care, then this protection is useless. Just something to consider.

there is a workaround on the bluray forum i'm on - when you see the cinavia message rewind then fast forward for about 30 seconds and play again. very ghetto for now but it works

[EvilBoB]

Hmm... this isn't looking good at all really for the PS3. The PS3 is more likely to keep getting updated to improve the DRM implementation than a Bluray player. Watch how any XBox 360 sales there are over the next month or so...

Dammit - means I have to buy another console/player or use my laptop to watch movies

[evilsatan]

Buy a revo for xbmc, it's not affected mainly Sony involved films with this on atm.