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    Help Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Chaps

    I had a spare 360 sitting round at home that I never used. It developed the e74 so I bought another to replace it. I have recently got round to fixing it with a modtraders kit.... Quality site.

    Now its fixed and I have the opening tools etc and xclamps removed I thought I would have a play round with firmware updates on the DVD drive.

    I purchased the c3k lite from the aforementioned site and I have read all the stickies, seen the vids on youtube and 360 upgrades dot com.

    I have the drive out, connected to the c3k, com port sorted, sata connected and all seems happy.

    I then open jungle flasher and I can see the drive but it is not showing up as a Hitachi. I can open the drive through my computer when in mode b and the com port is active. but I cant get it to see the drive as a Hitachi.. it does however state that it is a sata dvd.

    I am running windows 7.. which from reading I know is not ideal but do I need Hitachi drivers for the dvd?? if so I cant seem to find them on the web..

    Have I missed something.. do I need jungle flasher.??

    As ever.. any help greatly appreciated,..

    Freak

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    of course you need jungleflasher, hitachi tab - does it all for you

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Yes, you will need Jungleflasher to update this drive. It is however a bit of a pain in windows 7 I believe (i have only ever used XP with JF).

    Within the JF pack, take a look in the documentation folder at PORTIO-Kai-Schrom.txt which provides instructions on how to install the driver before you can run Jungleflasher on it. Its a bit complicated as you have to disable driver signing enforcement. Ive pasted it below for reference.

    Maybe someone who has used Win7 with JF on a Hitachi can provide more details, perhaps if you use Winapi this isnt required ???



    PASTED HERE : Tips for running DosFlash on Windows 7
    ----------------------------------------
    Since Windows Vista 64 Bit and upwards it is necessary that every driver is signed. Because
    the DosFlash driver will not be signed by MS due to some unknown reason we need to cicumvent
    this check. You have the following 2 possibilities to do this.
    Safe Way of Disabling Driver Signature Enforcement
    1) On Windows 7 bootup press F8 to get to the extended boot options screen
    2) Choose "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement"
    3) To start DosFlash right click on it in Windows Explorer and choose
    "Run as administrator" > answer the message box with "Yes"
    4) Short after the program started a "Program Compatibility Assistant" warning message
    is displayed, you can simply ignore this by pressing the "Close" button
    Recommended Way of Disabling Driver Signature Enforcement
    1) Disable User Account Control (UAC)
    - go to "Start Menu" > "Control Panel" > "User Accounts and Family Safety" > "User Accounts"
    - click on "Change User Account Control settings"
    - set the slider bar to the lowest value (Never notify) > click "OK"
    2) Sign the DosFlash driver
    - download the "Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider" (DSEO) from
    http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=dseo
    - start DSEO > click "Next" > "Yes" > choose "Sign a System File" > "Next" > enter the path to
    the used driver (portio32.sys or portio64.sys) > "OK" > "OK"
    3) Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
    - start DSEO > click "Next" > "Yes" > choose "Enable Test Mode" > "Next" > "OK"
    4) Restart the computer
    Keep in mind that with the recommended way the changes will have effect on every reboot without
    doing anything manual. The first way needs to be done over and over again. In addition the second
    way can be used to sign every driver that doesn't run natively on Windows 7.
    For use of the VIA Cards in Windows 7 it is recommended to uninstall the VIA driver. This can be
    done like follows:
    - start "Device Manager" > expand "Storage controllers" > right click on "VIA RAID Controller" >
    choose "Uninstall" > "OK"
    - rename C:\Windows\inf\vsmraid.inf to vsmraid.inf_
    - rename C:\Windows\inf\vsmraid.PNF to vsmraid.PNF_
    - rename C:\Windows\System32\drivers\vsmraid.sys to vsmraid.sys_
    - reboot computer

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by raelmadrid View Post
    of course you need jungleflasher, hitachi tab - does it all for you
    Thanks mate.. thought so. When I go to the Hitachi tab it says that no Hitachi drive found.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by tronads View Post
    Yes, you will need Jungleflasher to update this drive. It is however a bit of a pain in windows 7.

    Legend mate.. Didnt see that, I will give that a shot this evening.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Whoa there....don't be so hasty in calling that the answer !!!
    It may be, but see if someone else running JF in Windows 7 can confirm.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    LOL...

    Dont doubt you abilities mate..

    I will retract the statement then until I am running a backup of dead space 2 this evening!

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    also use onboard sata instead of via for hitachis if you can

    aslo if its been flashed in the past ALWAYS restore original firmware before flashing LT

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Its never been flashed before... Its a virgin..

    I am using on board SATA.. I dont have any other means as of yet.


    Thanks

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Now I wouold say use VIA instead of onboard SATA !

    But again, thats what I use, and because thats what JF is generaly coded to accomodate (particularly in PortIO mode rather than winapi), in an effort to force some kind of "standard".

    One thing I will stress is to follow the JF guide religiously, as Hiatchis are the easiest drives to get wrong, and recovery is somewhat more tricky than with other drives. make absolutely sure you have a dump of the original firmware before you attempt any sector flashing....JF is pretty good at enforcing this though.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    I dont think you need a via card at all for any drives now with the latest jungleflasher - Ive flashed a few Hitachis in Windows 7 with no problem at all - just make sure that when u open jungleflasher you already have the ck3 powered up (with the drive attached of course) and also when u open up jungleflasher right click on it and "run as administrator" - theres a full tutorial floating round on the net if u google for it which takes you through it all in babysteps.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    if it's been "dead" a while have you thought about jtag, before you upgrade it?

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-TED View Post
    if it's been "dead" a while have you thought about jtag, before you upgrade it?

    Ted

    I thought about JTAG as I plugged it in to test after the fix.... I then read that the dash needs to be an old version...... whilst the updating bar slowly spread across the screen.... yes.... I am an idiot!

    It had been off about a year!

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Ok...


    So I tried all Tronads DOS flash idea.... still didn't work.

    I followed the instructions, I used the DSEO method. I don't have VIA support so that was a mute point.

    I connected the SATA cable to my drive, the other end to the C3k Lite, Com port connection in.

    I don't know if there is an issue with the my setup but I cant start the PC with the Hitachi powered on.

    If it is powered on the startup hangs after bios.

    So I turn off the c3k then power on the PC.

    Once powered on I go into my comp and a drive is there.

    It displays as a qhxy SCSI or something like that.

    I then power on the C£k and then it shows a third drive in device manager called DVD SATA drive.

    No sign of Hitachi anywhere.

    I then open jungle flasher and the drive is called F:[000000000000000000000]

    I refresh and it says no Hitachi..

    Any ideas.. or should I just buy a SATA card??

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    It does sound like a sata chipset issue to me, but its difficult to be certain. As I said before, I personaly favour the via pci card interface rather than onboard sata...2 reasons for that really, one is my sata chipset at the time I started out, was one that was not compatible with any of the tools at the time, and the other reason is when I did do a Hitachi once using on-board, I accidentaly didnt change the drive letter to the right Hitachi drive before I flashed sectors, and I killed a PC drive I had in there....which obviously I should have disconnected beforehand...chalk that one down to experience. The tools are different now though, so I doubt I could make that mistake again, plus I n o longer use winapi so have no drive letters to confuse.
    Via cards are less than a fiver on ebay, so at least you know you will be able to do it when you get it.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    ordered one!

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Ok... after all the fucking about with the dirve, the pci sata card arrived today and it looks like i've screwed the drive. it wont eject using c3k or when put back into the 360..

    Is it recoverable or is it bricked... !! LOL... I am bloody useless!

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Hitachi's are usualy recoverable, but its not an easy process...

    First of all, we need to see exactly what you have done, to establish if its a brick from a bad flash, or a brick from something like putting the power lead in upside down.

    Can you paste your jungle flasher log file here for me to analyse before we go any further.

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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    After much research and some pride swallowing.... I have to admit that I have screwed it by putting the power in the wrong way.. schoolboy or what!

    Do I need to buy the same drive or will any drive work.. can I just buy one of flea bay..


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    Default Re: Hitachi 47dj - windows 7

    Well you are going to have to hope the SST flash chip hasnt been damaged in the power surge. next step is to remove the chip from the board (requires good soldering skills), read it in a willems programmer, fire the hex dump into jungleflasher for decryption, then flash an identical drive type with ixtreme LT+ and your specific key.

    There may be others on here, but I have a willems programmer, and I think Teajunkie might have his by now (though he hasnt asked me for the software yet, so maybe it hasnt arrived). If you are near Blackpool though, I can sort it for you, and looking on my shelf, I also have a spare Hitachi drive.

    If the chip has blown though, you're screwed unless the 360 dash is JTAG'able.

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