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    Advice Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Can anyone explain in layman's terms what a layman needs to do to a DS to make it 'Work'.

    I've just ordered one of these for my sons 4th birthday as the price seemed decent and he'll know doubt be into one sooner or later!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006YUX7NW

    I wondered if someone quickly explain what I need to do to unlock. The DS comes with a 2gb card and I plan to try and get hold of Mario Party: Island Tour for him and put this on the card for starters.

    Any help would be great.

    Many thanks,

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Hey Devs,

    i can can not see the link due to not posting enough yet.

    I have found that quite a lot of the r4 cards don't work on a 3ds but do work on ds and ds XL

    hope this helps

    as I said I can't see the link otherwise I could help you more

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    If you wanna play roms you need a 3DS running an old version of the system software, I think they all come running 6.X but you need 4.5 or lower.

    If you just want to play DS roms, I think there's a card that can manage that on newer machines but I am not sure off hand.

    There are rumours of a hack for 6.X machines, but as of yet its just a rumour.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Thanks for the input guys greatly appreciated.

    I'm totally new to this so will need a little bit of spoon feeding until I get my head around it.

    The link was just to the amazon product page for the 3DS (non XL) that I've just ordered.

    I trust that it will come running 6.X as it will be brand new? Will this cause problems or is there a fix so that I can load 'downloaded (backup)' games?

    Sorry 909 I'm not sure if it will be ROMs or not. I remember ROMs relating to old games? If so no, it will be just the current games that I would like to get on there for him at first. Ie Mario Party: Island Tour + Yoshi's New Island. Both in his age range.

    Do I need to buy anything else? or is it a case of unlocking the device somehow and loading the games on to the supplied 2gb card?

    Sorry for the Q's be Im struggling

    Cheers,

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    if its not 4.5 or lower, you cant do shit (at the moment). There's no downgrade either and no definite information to really indicate there ever will be. You would really need to hunt for a 4.5 version of the 3DS to find one now, its been well over a year since they stopped shipping machines with the software version on it.

    Rom. just means an image of physical cartridge hardware, so DS/3DS games which you DL are classed as roms, just as NES files are.

    I can get 4.5 machines here pretty easily, although I have no idea about ebay in the UK, if you really want a hackable machine, I can probably sort one out but its not gonna be cheap with all the postage and bank fees etc.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Hello mate that's what I feared. Thanks for the offer. The 3DS should have been delivered today so ill just buy him a game for now and see what turns up in future.

    Cheers mate,

    Devs.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question



    new vid here showing a hack on 6.3 machines, should cover every machine thats in the shops at the moment, but there is a 7.X update available online, so when the 3DS arrives, avoid updating it as all costs.

    The hacker does say that the loophole he used hasnt been stitched up in 7.X, so you should he ok, but you cant be too careful.

    Bear in mind that the hack here is in its infancy, so it will be a while before it gives access to rom loading.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Thanks mate, I've received the 3DS and had a look and its running ver. 2.1.0-4E... Trust that this will help me? So do I now need to buy an r4 card or something to let me play roms?

    I'd like to buy whatever I need today so that I can have delivered and setup in advance of his birthday on Friday.

    Many thanks!

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    assuming your'e not mistaken, your 3DS is lower than 4.5 so you are all good.

    found this on gbatemp, quoted from the gateway team:

    If a console is lower than 4.2 then it will need to be updated by using an original game released after March 2013.
    If a console is between 4.2 and 4.5 then there is no need to update,
    but when a newer rom is loaded it will force the update to 4.5 (again fine).


    and theres a list of games which will update to the correct version :

    Spoiler:
    Firmware 4.5.0:
    Animal Crossing - New Leaf (Europe) [EGDP]
    Animal Hospital (Europe) [AZFP]
    Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (Europe) [AYTP]
    Fire Emblem - Awakening (Europe) [AFEP]
    Games Festival 1 (Europe) [AAEP]
    I Love My Pets (Europe) [AA6P]
    LEGO City Undercover - The Chase Begins (Europe) [AA8P]
    LEGO Legends of Chima - Laval's Journey (Europe) [APRP]
    Luigi's Mansion 2 (Europe) [AGGP]
    Luxor (Europe) [ALXP]
    My Farm 3D (Europe) [ANJP]
    Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - Gates to Infinity (Europe) [APDP]
    Turbo - Super Stunt Squad (Europe) [AANP]

    Firmware 4.4.0:
    Around the World with Hello Kitty and Friends (Europe) [AHKP]
    Brain Age - Concentration Training (USA) [ASRE]
    Castlevania - Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate (Europe) [ACFE]
    Castlevania - Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate (USA) (ACFP]
    Castlevania - Lords of Shadow - Sadame no Makyou (Japan) [ACFJ]
    Croods - Prehistoric Party! (Europe) [AQRP]
    Croods, The - Prehistoric Party! (USA) [AQRE]
    Dragon Quest VII - Eden no Senshitachi (Japan) [AD7J]
    Etrian Odyssey IV - Legends of the Titan (USA) [ASJE]
    Fast & Furious - Showdown (Europe) [AFHP]
    Fire Emblem - Awakening (USA) [AFEE]
    Jewel Master - Cradle of Egypt 2 3D (USA) [AJEE]
    Jewel Quest Mysteries - The Seventh Gate (Europe) [AJQP]
    Layton Kyouju to Choubunmei A no Isan (Japan) [AL6J]
    Magi - Hajimari no Meikyuu (Japan) [ALMJ]
    MapleStory - The Girls Fate (Korea) [BMPK]
    Mario Tennis Open (USA) [AGAE]
    Mario Tennis Open (Taiwan) [AGAW]
    Meitantei Conan - Marionette Symphony (Japan) [BKNJ]
    Monster High Skultimate Roller Maze (Europe) [AH5P]
    Monster High - Skultimate Roller Maze (USA) [AH5E]
    Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Europe) [AMHP]
    Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (USA) [AMHE]
    My Riding Stables 3D - Jumping for the Team (Europe) [AAPP]
    Naruto Powerful Shippuden (USA) [AN4E]
    New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Taiwan) [ABEW]
    Paper Mario - Sticker Star (Europe) [AG5P]
    Pokemon no Fushigi no Dungeon - Magnagate to Mugendai no Meikyuu (Japan) [APDJ]
    Project X Zone (Europe) [AXXP]
    Project X Zone (USA) [AXXE]
    Puzzler World 2013 (USA) [AZLE]
    Secrets of the Titanic (Europe) [ASEP]
    Shin Megami Tensei - Devil Summoner - Soul Hackers (USA) [AHQE]
    Shin Megami Tensei IV (Taiwan) [AMXZ]
    Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (Europe) [ALLP]
    Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed (USA) [ALLE]
    Super Robot Taisen UX (Japan) [AS6J]
    Travel Adventures with Hello Kitty (USA) [AHKE]
    Viking Invasion 2 - Tower Defense (Europe) [AVKP]
    Zero Escape - Virtue's Last Reward (Europe) [AKGP]

    Firmware 4.3.0:
    Adventure Time - Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage! (USA) [AD4E]
    American Mensa Academy (USA) [AMME]
    Angry Birds Trilogy (Europe) [ANGP]
    Art Academy - Lessons for Everyone (USA) [AACE]
    Ben 10 - Omniverse (Europe) [ABVP]
    Classic Games Overload - Card & Puzzle Edition (USA) [ACGE]
    Disney Princess - My Fairytale Adventure (USA) [ADPE]
    Fantasy Life (Japan) [AFLJ]
    Finding Nemo - Escape To The Big Blue - Special Edition (USA) [AF7E]
    Freakyforms Deluxe - Your Creations, Alive! (USA) [ATQE]
    Hello Kitty Picnic with Sanrio Friends (Rev 1) (USA) [AHLE] [Note: 'Rev 0' has 4.1.0U]
    Hotel Transylvania (USA) [AH8E]
    Inazuma Eleven Go 2 - Chrono Stone - Neppuu (Japan) [ANPJ]
    Jewel Quest IV - Heritage (Europe) [AJ4P]
    Lalaloopsy - Carnival of Friends (USA) [ALYE]
    Naruto Powerful Shippuden (Europe) [AN4P]
    Naruto SD Powerful Shippuden (Taiwan) [AN4Z]
    Paper Mario - Sticker Star (USA) [AG5E]
    Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 3D (Europe) [AWTP]
    Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 3D (France + Germany) [AWTD]
    Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 3D (USA) [AWTE]
    Profesor Layton y la Mascara de los Prodigios, El (Spain) [AKKS]
    Professeur Layton et le Masque des Miracles (France) [AKKF]
    Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask (Europe) [AKKP]
    Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask (USA) [AKKE]
    Professor Layton und die Maske der Wunder (Germany) [AKKD]
    Professor Layton e la Maschera dei Miracoli, Il (Italy) [AKKI]
    Puzzler Brain Games (Europe) [AAGP]
    Rise of the Guardians (Europe) [ARGP]
    Shin Egokoro Kyoushitsu (Japan) [AACJ] (aka: Art Academy - Lessons for Everyone)
    Style Savvy - Trendsetters (USA) [ACLE]
    Super Black Bass 3D (USA) [ASBE]
    Survivor 3D - The Ultimate Adventure (Europe) [AV2P]
    The Trash Pack (USA) [ATZE]
    Tobidase Doubutsu no Mori (Japan) [EGDJ] {AKA: Animal Crossing - New Leaf}
    Wipeout 3 (USA) [AW3E]
    Wreck-It Ralph (Europe) [AWRP]
    Wreck-It Ralph (USA) [AWRE]

    Firmware 4.2.0:
    Biohazard - Revelations (Taiwan) [ABRW]
    Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time 3D (Taiwan) [AQEW]

    Firmware 4.1.0:
    AKB48+Me (Japan) [AKBJ]
    Angry Birds Trilogy (USA) [ANGE]
    Ben 10 - Omniverse (USA) [ABVE]
    Bowling Bonanza 3D (Europe) [AB6P]
    Bratz - Fashion Boutique (USA) [AB5E]
    Bravely Default - Flying Fairy (Japan) [AFFJ]
    Code of Princess (USA) [AC7E]
    Danball Senki Baku Boost (Japan) [ADNJ]
    Disney Epic Mickey - Power of Illusion (Europe) [AECP] [AECX]
    Disney Epic Mickey - Power of Illusion (USA) [AECE]
    Disney Princess - My Fairytale Adventure (Europe) [ADPD]
    E.X. Troopers (Japan) [ALTJ]
    FIFA Soccer 13 (USA) [AF8E]
    Finding Nemo - Escape To The Big Blue - Special Edition (Europe) [AF7P] [AF7X]
    Freakyforms Deluxe (Europe) [ATQP]
    Harvest Moon 3D - A New Beginning (USA) [ABQE]
    Hello Kitty Picnic with Sanrio Friends (Rev 0) (USA) [AHLE] [Note: 'Rev 1' has 4.3.0U]
    Hotel Transylvania (Europe) [AH8P]
    Imagine - Fashion World 3D (Europe) [AF3P]
    Imagine - Fashion Life (USA) [AF3E]
    Jewel Link - Legends of Atlantis 3D (Europe) [AJ5X]
    LEGO The Lord of the Rings (Europe) [ALAP]
    LEGO The Lord of the Rings (Germany) [ALAD]
    LEGO The Lord of the Rings (USA) [ALAE]
    Moshi Monsters - Moshlings Theme Park (USA) [AA9E]
    Myst (USA) [AM7E]
    New Art Academy (Europe) [AACP]
    New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Europe) [ABEP]
    New Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) [ABEE]
    Nintendogs + Cats - French Bulldog & New Friends (Taiwan) [ADBW]
    Nintendogs + Cats - Shiba & New Friends (Taiwan) [ADAW]
    Nintendogs + Cats - Toy Poodle & New Friends (Taiwan) [ADCW]
    Pippi Longstocking 3D (Europe) [APEP]
    Project X Zone (Japan) [AXXJ]
    Rabbids Rumble (Europe) [AR5P]
    Rabbids Rumble (USA) [AR5E]
    Rise of the Guardians (USA) [ARGE]
    Scribblenauts Unlimited (USA) [ASLE]
    Sengoku Musou Chronicle 2nd (Japan) [AZCJ]
    Sherlock Holmes - The Mystery of the Frozen City (Europe) [AHAP]
    Shin Megami Tensei - Devil Survivor Overclocked (Europe) [AMTP]
    Spy Hunter (Europe) [AHEP]
    Spy Hunter (USA) [AHEE]
    Star Fox 64 3D (Taiwan) [ANRW]
    Skylanders Giants (Europe) [AG6P]
    Skylanders Giants (USA) [AG6E]
    Super Black Bass 3D (Europe) [ASBP]
    Tohoku Daigaku Karei Igaku Kenkyuusho - Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu - Monosugoku Nou wo Kitaeru 5-Funkan no Oni Training (Japan) [ASRJ]
    Transformers Prime - The Game (Europe) [ATPP]
    Zero Escape - Virtue's Last Reward (USA) [AKGE]


    obviously, ignore any non-europe games listed.

    You'll then need to get a gateway card from somewhere, I have no idea on this as I am no longer in the UK.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Hi, yes I was surprised that the firmware was so old with it being a new unit via amazon. Anyhow.
    So I need to purchase one of these games to update the Firmware then get hold of a gateway card.

    If anyone else is reading and know where I can get one of these could they please drop me a PM.

    Many thanks again,

    Devs.

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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    I purchased my lad a DSXL in Jan and performed perfunctory research on hack1ng and the scene looked almost non existent. I started to buy used games off of fleabay for him and you can get most games for a tenner delivered, so I sacked it off..

    I believe that you can used hacked DS roms by purchasing an R4 card..
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    Default Re: Nintendo 3DS - Newbe Question

    Quote Originally Posted by devs View Post
    Hi, yes I was surprised that the firmware was so old with it being a new unit via amazon. Anyhow.
    So I need to purchase one of these games to update the Firmware then get hold of a gateway card.

    If anyone else is reading and know where I can get one of these could they please drop me a PM.

    Many thanks again,

    Devs.

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    lucky fucker, to be honest i thought you were mistaken when you said it was so old.

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