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    Quote Originally Posted by sk. View Post
    the Common Scrambling Algorithm CSA is used by all providers on the DVB standard. to change this standard would mean new hardware/boxes for everyone therefore it must be something else. i give examples of what they can and do use to try to stop cardshares. all major providers have/are moving to the card paired to box scenario in an effort to improve on security.

    i dont doubt there is some persons who have read this post that have the solution to this issue re SKy. whether they will share there methods is another matter. when someone does then maybe we will see an update for oscam, cccam or the usual event of the offering of a new cam.
    I am aware of the card/STB pairing. having worked for the company in question installing this equipment we always had to pair the box and card.

    What I think may happen (and again, all speculation!) is somone will find a way of spoofing the box SN on the CS server, to trick the card into thinking that it is in the correct STB. whether that's possible or not is a mystery as yet.

    I think it's pretty much accepted now that HD over CS is gone for at least the foreseeable future, so everyone back to the bad old days of SD

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    I have heard a little rumor that the boxes could now be using the cpu key from the receiver as a more secure pairing.

    Take it with a pinch of salt until the truth comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    I have heard a little rumor that the boxes could now be using the cpu key from the receiver as a more secure pairing.

    Take it with a pinch of salt until the truth comes out.
    But.... Is that really any more secure?

    I could end up looking thick here, but couldn't folk capture the CPU key and use that in the CS server in the same way as they'd use the serial number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by connormill View Post
    But.... Is that really any more secure?

    I could end up looking thick here, but couldn't folk capture the CPU key and use that in the CS server in the same way as they'd use the serial number?

    The new pairing key is not currently able to be read !!!!!!! Simples !

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    I suppose it's similar to the PS3 and xbox 360. Unless you know the private key to read the nand details of the box. You won't get the cpu key... (or working jtag ports to read data)

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    Not coming from me directly, just passing information here, most if not all the HD channels will be going off by the 10th June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dringhouses View Post
    Not coming from me directly, just passing information here, most if not all the HD channels will be going off by the 10th June.
    mentioned few pages back mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobileman View Post
    mentioned few pages back mate

    OHH! sorry not seen it mate

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    Back in the day i would of slapped my card in my box and locked it just to see what happened...mad how times change..
    As an aside i think the method is known just from past experiance and my time on the net things do get done but dont get posted... Think for a while that will be the case

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    Default Re: is this the start

    there is probably already a fix but they are holding off until all HD channels have gone, wouldn't be surprised if u have to buy another line also

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobie_wrc View Post
    there is probably already a fix but they are holding off until all HD channels have gone, wouldn't be surprised if u have to buy another line also
    If not sure there is as surely some over the underground sites and very skilled people even on here would have heard or been offered the solution for sly italia and that happened over 6 months ago now

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    there will be some kind of unscrupulous suppliers who WOULD do that no doubt but they need to be kicked in the balls for being a bastard.

    ive not heard anything yet myself apart from a new box coming out soon apart from that nada
    A wise man once said " "

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    Tending to agree with det and mobileman cant imagine your seeing a fix any time soon..
    Always rumours of new boxs etc when things happen but i doubt it second new box gets sold they would have to do one of 2 things ..
    Get your sky box /card
    Release a guide how u get whatever keys..
    Latter one renders there new box pointless....

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    Default Re: is this the start

    On the back of this, what's the next best option, internet TV?
    "That's why I fucked your bitch you fat mother fucker"

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    Will this effect the froch fight on box office or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    On the back of this, what's the next best option, internet TV?
    Watch it in SD for as long as it lasts IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by PlauGE View Post
    Will this effect the froch fight on box office or not?
    Possibly if sky hit the hd channel before Saturday and it's not showing on an SD version also will depend on you suppliers sub potentially

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    Well, hes a bit of a dick to be fair my supplier, ignoring all my emails, will have to stay off forums / facebook till after ive downloaded it, thank for response

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detector View Post
    ive not heard anything yet myself apart from a new box coming out soon apart from that nada
    i'm guessing the new box wont "fix" anything?

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    Default Re: is this the start

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    On the back of this, what's the next best option, internet TV?
    I'd say that most IPTV suppliers are losing their channels too. They were all using CS.

    The best option is probably a subscription for now. We need to let the dust settle. I don't think we will see an easy fix.

    can you get cable?

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    Think what will happen over time is cable servers will pop up offering the hd channels.. as demand increases.

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