UK pirates will get four warning letters a year

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    Households in the UK that persistently pirate music and movies online will receive emails warning them that their actions are illegal from next year.



    The warnings are part of a new scheme brokered between internet service providers (ISPs) and the industry bodies representing content copyright holders to educate the public about online piracy.


    From the beginning of 2015, up to four warnings will be sent annually to individuals suspected of online piracy, although if these warnings are ignored no further action will be taken.


    The scheme is called Creative Content UK (previously known as the 'voluntary copyright alert programme' or Vcap) and is a significant step back from plans outlined in the Digital Economy Act 2010, which would have seen persistent pirates have their internet access cut.


    Speaking in March this year, creative industries Minister Ed Vaizey said that implementing the act fully had been held back by “significant technical obstacles”.


    In addition to cutting off internet access, industry rights holders also wanted the warnings to mention potential penalties facing pirates as well as giving the industry access to a database of known file-sharers.


    In addition to the letters, the government has also pledged to contribute £3.5 million to a new educational campaign promoting legal ways to download music and movies.


    Business secretary Vince Cable announced the scheme, saying: “It's a difficult industry to pin down and it's also difficult to protect. But unless you protect it then it's an industry that cannot function."


    Figures published by Ofcom [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] suggested that nearly a quarter of all downlaods in the UK were of pirated content, but that just two per cent of users accounted for nearly three quarters (74 per cent) of the volume of downloads.



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    Further extract:

    "But sources close to the discussion suggest there could be a bigger game at play here. Within the leaked agreement, one important point: if this system does not have a big effect on piracy, then rights holders will call for the "rapid implementation" of the Digital Economy Act, and all the strict measures that come with it.

    Steve Kuncewicz, an expert in online and internet law, agreed. He speculated that the deal "may be a Trojan horse exercise in gathering intelligence about how seriously downloaders take threats".
    In other words, if it can be shown that asking nicely does not have a significant effect on curbing piracy, rights holders will for the first time have a seriously credible set of data with which to apply pressure for harder enforcement on those who simply do not want to pay for entertainment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsatan View Post
    Further extract:

    "But sources close to the discussion suggest there could be a bigger game at play here. Within the leaked agreement, one important point: if this system does not have a big effect on piracy, then rights holders will call for the "rapid implementation" of the Digital Economy Act, and all the strict measures that come with it.

    Steve Kuncewicz, an expert in online and internet law, agreed. He speculated that the deal "may be a Trojan horse exercise in gathering intelligence about how seriously downloaders take threats".
    In other words, if it can be shown that asking nicely does not have a significant effect on curbing piracy, rights holders will for the first time have a seriously credible set of data with which to apply pressure for harder enforcement on those who simply do not want to pay for entertainment."

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    Totally agree it's a Trojan horse and I would not trust Vince Cable he is scum and lists one of his biggest achievements as being the driving force behind getting the maximum sentence for software piracy increased from 2 years to 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Bouncer View Post
    Totally agree it's a Trojan horse and I would not trust Vince Cable he is scum and lists one of his biggest achievements as being the driving force behind getting the maximum sentence for software piracy increased from 2 years to 10 years.
    10 years for pirating a movie? fook me, what did that old cunt Stuart Hall get 5/6 years for touching kids? the world is truly fucked
    You know he grew up as a little shitspark from the old shitflint and then he turned into a shitbonfire and driven by the winds of his monumental ignorance he turned into a raging shitfirestorm. If I get to be married to Barb I'll have total control of Sunnyvale and then I can unleash the shitnami tidal wave that will engulf Ricky and extinguish his shitflames forever. And with any luck he'll drown in the undershit of that wave. Shitwaves.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystical_2K View Post
    10 years for pirating a movie? fook me, what did that old cunt Stuart Hall get 5/6 years for touching kids? the world is truly fucked
    Vince Cable

    Successfully shepherded a private members bill through parliament Copyright, etc. and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002 in 2002. The bill was aimed at organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy. Vincent Cable obtained all party backing for the bill. Getting any private members bill passed is a major achievement as they can be easily stopped by nearly any member of parliament and often the government does not allow much if any time on the schedule for the bill. The Bill increased the maximum penalty for copyright theft in the UK from two years to 10 years it also gives the authorities increased provision to obtain search warrants and powers to seize goods.

    Now what member of the public demanded that and what member of the public thinks that for house breaking, mugging, GBH, possession of child pornography, sexual assault first offence most cases will get a community service order but for software piracy most cases result in a prison sentence, you actually have more chance of going to prison for a DVD of the latest blockbuster than a DVD of kiddy porn it's a fucking joke.

    'The bill was aimed at organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy' <-- also a good idea of the smoke screen they use to introduce things for one thing and use them for another as it is being used against every offender not organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Bouncer View Post
    Vince Cable

    Successfully shepherded a private members bill through parliament Copyright, etc. and Trade Marks (Offences and Enforcement) Act 2002 in 2002. The bill was aimed at organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy. Vincent Cable obtained all party backing for the bill. Getting any private members bill passed is a major achievement as they can be easily stopped by nearly any member of parliament and often the government does not allow much if any time on the schedule for the bill. The Bill increased the maximum penalty for copyright theft in the UK from two years to 10 years it also gives the authorities increased provision to obtain search warrants and powers to seize goods.

    Now what member of the public demanded that and what member of the public thinks that for house breaking, mugging, GBH, possession of child pornography, sexual assault first offence most cases will get a community service order but for software piracy most cases result in a prison sentence, you actually have more chance of going to prison for a DVD of the latest blockbuster than a DVD of kiddy porn it's a fucking joke.

    'The bill was aimed at organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy' <-- also a good idea of the smoke screen they use to introduce things for one thing and use them for another as it is being used against every offender not organised crime involved in large-scale copyright piracy
    yeah so they are putting out a bill and saying its intended for one thing (but e.g. has more powers if you read the fine print) and once the bill is passed the larger implications of the bill (or wider reaching parts) become apparent and it starts getting used for a much larger scale of operations than people were led to believe, and to fuel the fire i assume the media is gently adding the coal a bit at a time
    You know he grew up as a little shitspark from the old shitflint and then he turned into a shitbonfire and driven by the winds of his monumental ignorance he turned into a raging shitfirestorm. If I get to be married to Barb I'll have total control of Sunnyvale and then I can unleash the shitnami tidal wave that will engulf Ricky and extinguish his shitflames forever. And with any luck he'll drown in the undershit of that wave. Shitwaves.
     
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    SSL & VPN then your good in theory
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    I don't know who is getting these warning letters cos the amount of downloading I do I am truly shocked I have never received any warning of any kind

    The only thing I do really is to change ISP at the end of every contract
     
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    recommend any good vpn's then lol! already use ssl
     
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    Astrill is my VPN of choice. Works on Android and IOS too.
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    I don't know about anyone else but I would say that the movie download scene is just about dead.. certainly for movies still in theatres.. so the amount I actually download had plummeted massively. IT also seems to take quite some time for movies which have gone to DVD to appear. I mostly grab US tv shows now.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnerfreak View Post
    the movie download scene is just about dead.
     
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    I am always willing to buy / pay to watch if the film is as good as it would appear. Often the only good parts are crammed into the trailer. False advertisement! Wheres my refund?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by {{909}} View Post
    Astrill is my VPN of choice. Works on Android and IOS too.
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]concerns me, also later in the thread someone advises against Private Internet Access as it is US based. Personally I thought the one probably worth trusting was iPred but it looks like the VPN market is a minefield.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    I don't know who is getting these warning letters cos the amount of downloading I do I am truly shocked I have never received any warning of any kind

    The only thing I do really is to change ISP at the end of every contract

    Update to my previous post, I was just emailed by plusnet with one of these warnings lol



    Copy below
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    Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,

    Unfortunately we have received a complaint regarding copyrighted material that appears to have been shared from your connection. If you are not sure why this might have been received or would like more information regarding this please raise a query at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (click on Customer Services & Billing / Contact the Abuse Team).

    We are legally required to advise you that you must take all reasonable precautions to ensure that no one (including you) uses the Service:
    (a) fraudulently or in connection with a criminal offence;
    (b) to send, knowingly receive, upload, download or use any material which is offensive, abusive, indecent, defamatory, obscene or menacing, or in breach of copyright, confidence, privacy or any other rights.

    If you are aware that this is happening on your connection, please ensure you stop the sharing of the offending material.

    Even if you are sure that nobody in your household has been sharing any copyrighted material the account holder is responsible for any and all use of the connection. Please ensure that if you use a wireless network that it is fully password protected and as secure as is possible. For more information on securing your networks and computers please see [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Kind Regards,

    Plusnet Abuse Team

    This email has been sent as it contains important information about your service from Plusnet. Please do not reply to this email, as this is an unmonitored address.

    Email Ref: XXXX

    PlusNet PLC Registered Office: The Balance, 2 Pinfold Street, Sheffield, S1 2GU. Registered in England no: 3279013
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsatan View Post
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]concerns me, also later in the thread someone advises against Private Internet Access as it is US based. Personally I thought the one probably worth trusting was iPred but it looks like the VPN market is a minefield.
    The only warning I have had re uploading copyrighted stuff was when I used a US VPN.. stopped that right away LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Update to my previous post, I was just emailed by plusnet with one of these warnings lol



    Copy below
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    Dear XXXXXXXXXXX,

    Unfortunately we have received a complaint regarding copyrighted material that appears to have been shared from your connection. If you are not sure why this might have been received or would like more information regarding this please raise a query at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (click on Customer Services & Billing / Contact the Abuse Team).

    We are legally required to advise you that you must take all reasonable precautions to ensure that no one (including you) uses the Service:
    (a) fraudulently or in connection with a criminal offence;
    (b) to send, knowingly receive, upload, download or use any material which is offensive, abusive, indecent, defamatory, obscene or menacing, or in breach of copyright, confidence, privacy or any other rights.

    If you are aware that this is happening on your connection, please ensure you stop the sharing of the offending material.

    Even if you are sure that nobody in your household has been sharing any copyrighted material the account holder is responsible for any and all use of the connection. Please ensure that if you use a wireless network that it is fully password protected and as secure as is possible. For more information on securing your networks and computers please see [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Kind Regards,

    Plusnet Abuse Team

    This email has been sent as it contains important information about your service from Plusnet. Please do not reply to this email, as this is an unmonitored address.

    Email Ref: XXXX

    PlusNet PLC Registered Office: The Balance, 2 Pinfold Street, Sheffield, S1 2GU. Registered in England no: 3279013
    Such a waste of money if the government aren't going to add any end product to the emails. Its pretty pointless as people will simply not give a fuck or just delete the email.
     
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    piggzy said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigro View Post
    Such a waste of money if the government aren't going to add any end product to the emails. Its pretty pointless as people will simply not give a fuck or just delete the email.

    Exactly what I did !
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigro View Post
    Such a waste of money if the government aren't going to add any end product to the emails. Its pretty pointless as people will simply not give a fuck or just delete the email.
    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Exactly what I did !
    Don't you think this is exactly the response they expect and want, I will come back and post a told you so when the BBC LATEST NEWS READS: New legislation to be introduced to deal with persistent software piracy after the scheme agreed last year has failed, this comes after (list of companies) demanded action after an estimated (made up amount then times by 10) has been lost in revenue and jobs (insert additional pro legislation propaganda) and Bobs your uncle this legislation has been pushed through with cross party support.......

    Trojan Horse as Evilsatan said

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    Tunnel bear here I come