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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    An SRV record in most cases as you say would not exist but could not the client software create an acceptable SRV record on the fly to satisfy XMPP protocols ??
    Not saying that is what happens .. more thinking out loud!
    Funnily enough I just edited in something to answer that situation then I read your reply.

    To do what you are saying, easiest way would be to create an SRV record that points to an A record (or AAAA record) that is using dynamic dns.

    Problem is when your router reboots, and once the local dynamic dns client has updated, it can take a while for the updated A record to propagate through the worldwide DNS system.

    In this time, you wouldn't be able to send and receive messages, or even worse, your messages could end up with the wrong person.

    So it could be done in theory, and I wouldn't be surprised if things like this have been done by developers for test purposes.

    But it would be laughable to base a production solution serving such a volume of users on a mechanism that would be as flimsy and insecure as what I just described.

    I wasn't going to bother explaining this detail, but seeing as it was you that asked I thought I might as well.

    Btw, this only answers one part of the problem, trying to get a working SRV record. With the spec you published I can see other difficulties people may have if they wished to set themselves up in accordance with that document using regular domestic connections.
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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Ok, I've just spent a few moments with another super mod.

    We sent a few messages between each other using facebook chat.

    I sniffed the traffic using wireshark (direct from NIC, no silly bridges or anything), no sign of any unencrypted XMPP. All communication was via SSL (TLS v1.2).

    Tried netstat -a and netstat -nbt as directed to in this thread, no sign of the IP address of the person who helped me out for this quick test.

    I'm sorry to be so blunt Black Oracle, but the technical argument you have presented appeared to me to be a pile of steaming bullshit which I have just confirmed in real life.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    As I suspected it would, this thread is turning into one of those classics Piggzy was asking about in the D&D.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    I sniffed Over Carl's traffic and all I got was sweet fuck all.


    Edit: You owe me a lousy T-shirt.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganty View Post
    I sniffed Over Carl's traffic and all I got was sweet fuck all.


    Edit: You owe me a lousy T-shirt.
    I thought a bag of pubes was the traditional gift?

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Actually I may be wrong.

    I've previously admitted I'm not a hacker.

    I am guessing someone with uber leet skills like Black Oracle can hack into any of the root CA's, and then generate an SSL cert to setup his own MITM attack to decrypt the SSL traffic.

    But then he should have just said so in the first place instead of this netstat talk.

    And we still don't have any info on how the relevant DNS records could possibly be created to facilitate direct XMPP connections.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    He could also be Mark Zuckerberg, that has also crossed my mind.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    One thing I can say for certain!!!!

    I would definitely not want to "Sniff CzarJunkie's Traffic"

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    I sniffed all of your packets.

    0wn3d.

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    One thing I can say for certain!!!!

    I would definitely not want to "Sniff CzarJunkie's Traffic"
    Could be worse, you could be sniffing CzarTrafficies junk

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    This thread is absolute savagery. Thanks for the lulz

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    Oh Shit Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    He could also be Mark Zuckerberg, that has also crossed my mind.
    Not quite! I don't have his money - I have been messing with netstat for hours, then come back here to see what Over Carl had put! lol

    Right, I found the information on the suspect IP I had given to the police was wrong! But, I couldn't understand why because I have known this trick for years - so I downloaded WireShark done exactly what you did and got the same response!!! To me this didn't make sense at all because we've used it before and it worked with no problems.

    So, I dug deeper - cus this was puzzling me now! How can the IP not show when using netstat -n it's worked in the past.

    Now, I didn't give any BS, if you google netstat -n and Facebook loads of websites are showing it - I took it one step further!

    I checked Facebook itself! And found this - [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] - therefore I stand corrected, and Over Carl - you are quite correct with the results on WireShark!

    Dam, I hate Facebook sometimes... The IP that I gave was a sky subscriber, but why they were looking at my machine is beyond me, it showed up 3 times, with my local IP.

    So, we can calm down now lads! lol I just had a crap day! That's a first on this forum! lol

    Oh well, my fault - and I knew it used to work, but I hadn't checked it thoroughly this time!! Now, I've leanrt my lesson!!

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Here is a shovel, keep digging


    Only 1 place left for this to go
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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Mickey - I Need a bloody Snow plough! LOL

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    HOS :-)

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    I was asking for epic hilarious threads yesterday. Needs updating now ;-)

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    Here is a shovel, keep digging


    Only 1 place left for this to go
    I think he needs a big fucking ladder, not a shovel for this lol

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Oracle View Post
    Mickey - I Need a bloody Snow plough! LOL
    your going to fit right in here matey. We haven't had another village idiot since breamy left

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    This isnt gonna turn into that PSP thread where you all (before my time here) keep bumping it for the next 12 months :-) PMSL

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    Default Re: A guy on Facebook tried 'grooming' my 15 year old daughter! Wrong person to 'Hit'

    Everyone mentions "breamy" - who the hell is he?? or more to the point, what did he do?

    Or shouldn't I ask! lol

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