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    Bad News Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within weeks

    THE INVESTIGATORY POWERS BILL (IP Bill), which has been some 10 years in the making in various forms, has been passed by Parliament.

    The so-called Snoopers' Charter was passed by the House of Lords today following a final debate examining various amendments.

    The Bill will therefore become law within weeks, legalising a number of secret service activities that were ruled unlawful only in October.

    Jenny Jones, Green Party member of the House of Lords, claimed that Parliament had "given our security services unprecedented powers to spy on us".

    That's it, the #IPBill has gone thru and will soon be an Act. We've given our security services unprecedented powers to spy on us. — Jenny Jones (@GreenJennyJones) November 16, 2016
    Julian Huppert, the former Liberal Democrat MP who lost his Cambridge seat in the General Election last year, criticised the Conservative and the Labour parties for uniting to push it through.

    Thanks to all those who fought damaging effects of #IPBill - @libdems @theSNP @TheGreenParty. Shame Tories & Labour pushed it through #fb — Julian Huppert (@julianhuppert) November 16, 2016
    The law will require internet and phone companies to store comprehensive records of websites visited and phone numbers called for 12 months, and to enable police, security services and multiple other public sector bodies to access those records on demand.

    It will also provide the security services with the legal power to bulk collect personal communications data, and give police and security services the explicit power to hack into, and bug, computers and smartphones. These powers will largely require only the approval of the home secretary.

    #IPBill all but law. Time to consign 60% of Covert Policing Law & Practice to legal history and start writing again — Simon McKay (@simonmckay) November 16, 2016
    Privacy International explained why the powers for government agencies to collect "internet connection records" are so far reaching.

    "At the very least, they comprise a 12-month log of websites visited, communications software used, system updates downloaded, desktop widgets used, every mobile app used and logs of any other device connecting to the internet, such as games consoles, baby monitors, digital cameras and e-book readers," it warned.

    Related: Privacy groups slam parliamentary passing of 'draconian' IP Bill

    Any flaws, known or unknown, could then be exploited to break into any individual's computer or smartphone, revealing a much wider range of information about people than they might otherwise realise.

    Privacy International added: "They are comparable to a compilation of call records, postal records, library records, study and research records, social and leisure activity records and location records, and will additionally capture concerns about health, sexual and family issues.

    "The agencies would be able to acquire this intrusive, population-level data in bulk under bulk acquisition powers."

    The Investigatory Powers Act will replace section 94 of the Telecommunications Act 1984, which in the past has been used as an Enabling Act allowing a wide range of electronic surveillance by various arms of the state. µ

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Probably time people thought about VPNs on all their internet connections to protect their privacy. A good comparison chart here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    What a royal bunch of cunts...


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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    My attitude has always been if your doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

    Hence why im using a vpn when I use torrents and nzb sites everything else they can see all they want.
    Nosey pricks! I may just fill my pc with dets midget porn collection they can wank over that all day lol
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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Quote Originally Posted by Teajunkie View Post
    My attitude has always been if your doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

    Hence why im using a vpn when I use torrents and nzb sites everything else they can see all they want.
    Nosey pricks! I may just fill my pc with dets midget porn collection they can wank over that all day lol
    In the case of the NSA they intercepted private photos and shared them amongst theirselves, that's just one example of abuse. In this case it is apparently internet history but they could use information as leverage if they ever wanted to, the point is this is a vast invasion of privacy. Serious or coordinated terrorists would know to use precautions so it serves little purpose other than to collect data from all of us for unknown purposes. Someone with a better eye for the big picture will no doubt add some scary thoughts to this thread.

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Right thats it.. new router.

    Just been using VPN for my PC but rest of the house is open. Any recommendations for a VPN friendly router for BT fibre.

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    The BT home hub works with vpn, ive just looked at my settings
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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey View Post
    The BT home hub works with vpn, ive just looked at my settings
    Really. Maybe its had an update. last time I looked it didnt have the option.

    HH5 ??


    Edit: Just looked, cant see any such settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Really. Maybe its had an update. last time I looked it didnt have the option.

    HH5 ??


    Edit: Just looked, cant see any such settings.


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    Think mines the HH7
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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    The newest is the HH6 but they just allow for port clamping, I don't think they let you set up an OpenVPN service on the router itself. You can either buy a cable router and flash it with DD-WRT/Tomato/OpenWRT but then you have two bits of kit. I just had a quick look for a cheap VDSL router capable of OpenVPN but didn't find anything, will look again when on a computer though.

    EDIT: It looks like this supports it but DYOR before to be safe:
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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsatan View Post
    The newest is the HH6 but they just allow for port clamping, I don't think they let you set up an OpenVPN service on the router itself. You can either buy a cable router and flash it with DD-WRT/Tomato/OpenWRT but then you have two bits of kit. I just had a quick look for a cheap VDSL router capable of OpenVPN but didn't find anything, will look again when on a computer though.
    Cheers Mickey & Evilsatan... as Mr Satan says the HH5 allows fuck all :-(

    Need a good openwrt router..

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    bt are going to be sending out letters to anyone that is seen to breaking copyrightsstarting in december, i only found out today so dont know if its to do with this or if they were planning it allready , not got any other information and they are going to be sending out info on where you can watch things without breaking copyright, no informtaion on what they are planning to do if you dont stop but i think vpn is the way forward now.

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    The Bill will therefore become law within weeks, legalising a number of secret service activities that were ruled unlawful only in October.
    This is the nub here. They have been doing this stuff for many years. Facebook Google et all actually assist in this stuff if Edward Snowdon's book is to be believed. Also in his book was methods the UK and US use to collect data. I would go as far as say VPN's ect are all well and good - but the fact that the government and it's agencies actually splice into the Fiber links that hit our waters ....I would say the governments win and they have the biggest router of all - VPN's ect may well make your address "difficult to get"....But by no means hidden nor would the data be in anyway unreadable to those with prying eyes.
    Give it 50 years or so and companies will also have access to ALL your personal data from your waist size to weather your great granddad died of cancer. Good job im a good boy.....lol

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Well yes, you are never really anonymous. But how much paranoia you have depends on what ur doing. Any sys admins will tell you, Logs of something are all well and good but in order to catch someone you have to search/filter all the data in quite a lot of detail to be able to get what u need. What worries me is giving the keys to the fkin police. They will without doubt abuse this the most and most regularly.

    Its a cunts trick, but it will not affect most people even if you download the odd film or troll a celeb.

    They've always done it, just now they are allowed to so to speak.


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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    It was only a matter of time; time to buy a new router that forwards everything to a VPN.

    Any router suggestions?

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Any dd-wrt I think?

    Or this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    Any dd-wrt I think?

    Or this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


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    Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt openwrt considered the better option over dd-wrt these days ??

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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Aye maybe. TBH it's not something I know much about.


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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt openwrt considered the better option over dd-wrt these days ??
    I think it's horses for courses, Tomato is also supposed to be good. I usually use DD-WRT but I am just used to it, my new VPN mini router has OpenWRT and that seems more user friendly at the cost of less options than DD-WRT.


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    Default Re: Snoopers' Charter 2.0: IP Bill passed by Parliament and will become law within we

    is there a recommended VPN for torrenting? With all this chat about these news Im getting worried, I use torrents heavily every other month im home to download tv episodes, movies and games for the months im at sea...

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