Anyone know what the yellow clip on the front of guns used by the British Army is used for??
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Anyone know what the yellow clip on the front of guns used by the British Army is used for??
it`s called a BFA (blank firing attachment)........it allows the gas dicharged from a blank round to reroute to the mechanism thus allowing the weapon to reload itself
chippy
Gunner Chippy :) You Made Me Proud... It Look's Like Not E verything Is Lost Yet :DQuote:
Originally posted by chippy
it`s called a BFA (blank firing attachment)........it allows the gas dicharged from a blank round to reroute to the mechanism thus allowing the weapon to reload itself
chippy
but enyway gunner you've earnd it...
Sergeant - Major Williams.
hahahaha lol !!!
thanks man.........but i already got a couple of them !! (6 years mispent youth)
maybe we can team up on the weapons side of ABCman`s digiforum army :P !!!!!!!!!
chippy
@Sergeant-Major NO MATE
That is used becuz firing blanks can still be dangerous at point blank range.
eg. if you shoot an apple at point blank with a blank it will still split, when that attachment is placed on the rifle the apple will not split.
There is a semi automatic attachment but i am pretty sure that is not it.
Correct me if i am wrong, otherwise demote Sergeant-Major. :)
P.S. I think it is yellow to make the attachment clear so people know it is attached.
Now.. Now.... Gunner way2gud4u :DQuote:
Originally posted by way2gud4u
@Sergeant-Major NO MATE
That is used becuz firing blanks can still be dangerous at point blank range.
eg. if you shoot an apple at point blank with a blank it will still split, when that attachment is placed on the rifle the apple will not split.
There is a semi automatic attachment but i am pretty sure that is not it.
Correct me if i am wrong, otherwise demote Sergeant-Major. :)
P.S. I think it is yellow to make the attachment clear so people know it is attached.
theres NO Need to make a seen.. have one too then & we can call the matter Closed ..
Roflmfao........:D :D :D
P.S
i dont mind giving them away i bught a big stock for a few bobs. lol
Sergeant-Major Williams.
I gotta agree with way2gud4u
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Originally posted by Pongo
I gotta agree with way2gud4u
Well Gunner Pongo !!
you arn't going to get eny lol & thats final... :D :D
Sergeant - Major Williams.
Not evenif I bend over and grease my bottom ?
Sarge..*kiss* *kiss* LMAO
@way2gud4u
u r right in sayin that a weapon is stil dangerous with a bfa attached...........but with out a bfa the sa80 or any weapon for that matter will NOT function correctly when firing blank rounds............trust me ..........i worked with armourers for quite a few years and have fired a number of different weapons
chippy
ok i chekd it aat wiv a m8 and chippy is rite, i just dint step my foot in it 2 bad cuz i had it wrong!!
basically the BFA is used 2 let the air go back into the mechanism to recock the weapon (like chippy said!). This would happen naturally without the BFA if real rounds were being used.
Apparently the rifles will still function correctly without it though, just you'll have to cock it.
Newayz, apologies to Chippy but I still fink 'Seargent'Major shud demoted, he dont seem2 no about it.
the blanks should just hit the end of the yellow thingy , and the gas will travel back up the barrel cause the recoil thus reloading the weapon but some of the gas does escape at the end.
correct me if i'm wrong , think i'm right cos they used to use em on the old SLR's but i dont know what effect they have on an sa80.
no...i did`nt say that.............the point i was making is that bfa is a device to simulate battlefield conditions i.e make the weapon fire in semi auto of full auto.........without a bfa and firing blanks this would not happen as all the gas would flow out of the muzzle and therefor not "push" back the workin parts..............i suggest u do a search on some weapons sites and read up b4 post
chippy
*edit*............hahahaha .........he edited !!!!
*edit again* yes big bad dog ..........u r quite correct :):)
Thanx guys!! as informative as ever!
@way2gud4u
hahaha..............no probs man :):)
chippy, wats ur problem? i edited cuz i had posted then i changed it while i chekd it out rather than cluterin the thread, calm down b4 u jizz ur pants.
pmsl
hi guys,
thought while we were on the subject id chuck in my 2p worth.
while i was in cadets a few years ago we were doing a field exercise n part ov the stuff we did was a ambush scenario.
now when we did this we used 5.56mm assault rifles(basically the sa80 without the sites on top) on the side ov it was a little switch that changed the way it fired.
1 way it was repetition(think u had 2 cock it 4 every shot) n the other was automatic or semi automatic(not sure which). now dumb arse me didnt set it rite n shot out 30 blank rounds in a few seconds. these rifles had no bfa but didnt require cocking after each round.
were they modified in sum way 2 allow them 2 do this?
Both of you are right and I can tell you that 100% are serving 6 years 172 days service. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by chippy
@way2gud4u
hahaha..............no probs man :):)
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Originally posted by Danger Mouse
hi guys,
thought while we were on the subject id chuck in my 2p worth.
while i was in cadets a few years ago we were doing a field exercise n part ov the stuff we did was a ambush scenario.
now when we did this we used 5.56mm assault rifles(basically the sa80 without the sites on top) on the side ov it was a little switch that changed the way it fired.
1 way it was repetition(think u had 2 cock it 4 every shot) n the other was automatic or semi automatic(not sure which). now dumb arse me didnt set it rite n shot out 30 blank rounds in a few seconds. these rifles had no bfa but didnt require cocking after each round.
were they modified in sum way 2 allow them 2 do this?
dude i spent 8 yrs in the royal corps of signals and have fired more rounds of 5.56 mm from the shit bit of kit called the SA 80
single repitition you should of not needed to recock the weapon ( make it ready) unless in each magazine there was only 1 round otherwise the working parts of the weapon would of recoiled and put another round in the chamber
regards to the BFA it is there for a nother purpose that has not been mentioned
SAFETY
you fire the weapon with a blank round in close proximity of some one there gonna get hurt because the gases will ignite and you get a bloody long flame see it at night for best effects and ut will do damage i witnessed a demo of a large water melon / an instructor placed the muzzle of an SA80 about 5 inch from a water melon the weapon was loaded with a magazine containg 28 rounds / yes the mags carry 30 rounds but thats when you get problems with blockages / there was no BFA attatched he placed the rifle on full automatic and pulled the trigger to say the melon got wasted was an understatement it totally destroyed it
and regards working parts not recoiling im sorry to say but they worked fine and functioned as they where supposed too
thanks
25000443 signaller R Armstrong
enlisted / 08.07.91
:)
I thought that it was to stop a bullet coming out the end if a real bullet had accidentally been loaded into the gun!! LOL
You learn something new every day :)
@worzel2007 quote you:
'regards to the BFA it is there for a nother purpose that has not been mentioned
SAFETY'
quote me:
'That is used becuz firing blanks can still be dangerous at point blank range.'
;)
so i was sort of right then ?Quote:
Originally posted by BigBadDog
the blanks should just hit the end of the yellow thingy ,
@way2gud4u
"sigh"
Stop talking shit sprog scaleyback.Quote:
Originally posted by worzel2007
dude i spent 8 yrs in the royal corps of signals and have fired more rounds of 5.56 mm from the shit bit of kit called the SA 80
single repitition you should of not needed to recock the weapon ( make it ready) unless in each magazine there was only 1 round otherwise the working parts of the weapon would of recoiled and put another round in the chamber
regards to the BFA it is there for a nother purpose that has not been mentioned
SAFETY
you fire the weapon with a blank round in close proximity of some one there gonna get hurt because the gases will ignite and you get a bloody long flame see it at night for best effects and ut will do damage i witnessed a demo of a large water melon / an instructor placed the muzzle of an SA80 about 5 inch from a water melon the weapon was loaded with a magazine containg 28 rounds / yes the mags carry 30 rounds but thats when you get problems with blockages / there was no BFA attatched he placed the rifle on full automatic and pulled the trigger to say the melon got wasted was an understatement it totally destroyed it
and regards working parts not recoiling im sorry to say but they worked fine and functioned as they where supposed too
thanks
25000443 signaller R Armstrong
enlisted / 08.07.91
:)
I enlisted in 1983 and the SLR was the personal weapon then so back to what I said both guys were right. I suspect you were a handbag anyway .:p: :D
sod the sa80 , i want 1 of these
Electromags
How They Work
Electromagnetic weapons, sometimes referred to as gauss weapons or electromags, use magnetism to fire projectiles at hypersonic speeds. The device is relatively simple and, apart from the loading mechanism and the bullet itself, has no moving parts. There are two types of electromags on the battlefield today, the rail gun and the coil gun. The rail gun (the type commonly used by the I.M.C.) works like this: two rails made of some conductive material are placed parallel to each other and hooked up to a power supply capable of providing million of amperes at a low voltage for a few milliseconds (i.e. a power cell). These rails are reinforced and rigidly held in place to avoid bending caused by the massive magnetic field that is generated. As soon as the rail gun bullet, commonly called the armature, completes the circuit by touching both rails, a strong magnetic field builds behind the projectile, forcing it out of the gun at speeds upwards of 4 miles/second.
The slightly more powerful, energy efficient, and much more reliable coil gun is not widely used. The weapon works by switching on magnetic coils in a sequence very quickly, accelerating the projectile out of the weapon as it does so. Currently only a few weapons have been converted to coil guns, but the eventual full scale replacement of the venerable rail gun is inevitable.
Game effects: A coil gun has a reputation for reliability.
Weapon Appearance
An electromagnetic small arm or cannon will probably look very similar to the gun whose role it took over (a gauss howitzer looks a lot like a conventional howitzer, etc.). One main difference is barrel thickness. The barrel has to be thicker in order to hold the rails/coils in place. In the case of rail guns there are pronounced bulges on either side of the barrel. Coil guns will have small lumps along the length of the barrel where the coils are positioned. The bullets are either made of conductive material themselves or have a conductive sheath (sabot) around them which flies off upon leaving the gun. The loading mechanism does not have to accommodate spent shell casings so it is much smaller and lighter than a conventional gun. Since there are no casings, there is no need for a breech and the weapon can be made bullpup without the soldier having to worry about getting a face full of hot brass. Bullpup weapons have the action behind the trigger. This saves space and makes the gun easier to handle.
What happens when you fire an electromag? When fired the gun itself does not make much noise. The noise comes from the bullet breaking the sound barrier. For small arms, there is a loud, distinct crack, like a whip, every time the gun discharges. For cannons there is a deafening boom. The bullet travels at such a high speed that friction heats the air around it to the point of ionization causing a bright white streak and the lingering stink of ozone. The amount of electrical energy sent through the round varies a little every time the gun fires. If the rails are still conducting after the bullet leaves the gun a bolt of electricity (resembling a miniature lightning bolt) follows the round for a short distance. If the rails shut off too soon then the projectile slows and grates along the barrel, possibly causing a misfire. All the energy concentrated in the barrel causes it to heat up quickly. If care is not taken the barrel will eventually melt do to the immense heat, which can cause catastrophic misfires. The friction between the bullet and the rails causes the rails to degrade over time. They have to be replaced periodically. This is not a problem with the coil gun as the bullet does not touch the coils in any way.
smart........think i saw 1 of the "rail guns' in the movie predator with arnie:)......nice bit of kit but would`nt like 2 b on the end of it !!!!!!!!!...............some thin else i read or heard about,i believe a firm in switzerland (styer i think)has developed caseless ammo to save on weight etc.........but don`t know much about it i never came across 1
chippy
try www.janes.com
@chippy
wat u sighin at? r u not excited ne more?
no not really............ur just boring me now
this is my department :) pongo loveer boy.... i can almost feel your tender arse been penetrated by my frindly toll... mmmmm.....Quote:
Originally posted by Pongo
Not evenif I bend over and grease my bottom ?
Sarge..*kiss* *kiss* LMAO
& what an arse........ god bless your arse.... i nearly came just thnking of it.. damn....
meet me at the forum door at 7:00 pm sharp, i have a surprise for you huney..... it's big !! it's hot" & it's mighty hard too.
chippy r u about 4 years old?
i dont care wot anyone says, i want a MAC 10, they are so cool
:)
DJ