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    Default Boo hoo my amiga is dead

    So it turns out that the folks at Commodore didn't think the amiga would still be around 25 years on and only made batteries to last 10+ years.
    The result on the 500plus models is as in the pic. The expansion on the older 500s had a battery too.

    Be cheaper to get a new mother board, but where is the fun in that.

    .

    There is a company who have done a run of new 500+ motherboards.
    linka500+red.jpg

    I found quite alot of info so should be able to repair it.

    I'll post it up here in case it helps anybody else.

    service manual

    a500+exposed.jpg

    Once its fixed i'll chuck it back in the garage and forget about it for another 20 years.

    I ordered some bits to make a start so lets see how it goes.

    could always put an emulator on the android box that, runs on hdmi too.

    when it turned it on the power light flashes 10 small and one 1 longer flash. According to the internet go to try reseating the agnus......
    when left on for 5 minutes the chips get warm to the touch except the gary, the one near the battery accident so starting there.

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    Default Re: Boo hoo my amiga

    found a really useful tool

    https://beta.amigapcb.org/

    Check it out, click on a pin or via and it does a trace on the board top and bottom shows the route it needs to go.

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    Well I've got it booting up. Fixed 1 keyboard issue made another one. Drive is pretty noisy,I'll have to show that some love.

    Build a SCART cable

    Hack up a ps2 mouse, you forget how not ergonomic the amiga ones were.

    Buy and reflash a floppy disc emulator.


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    The key board membrane has a fault so a few keys don't work. They are available to buy so not the end of the world. Went on a quick recky of my folks attic and found this little lot.

    Happy days.

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    Good old Action Replay... forgot about that.

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    Default Re: Boo hoo my amiga is dead

    While I was in the attic I found some more bits for future fun when the dark nights come.
    Found a c16, a c64, a Kempston interface for a speecy, a snes,a nes and a cdtv. Found some Atari 2600 games too.

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    Bloody awesome stuff.

    I forgot about the Commodore CDTV it was there attempt at what MS did with the xbox. Bringing gaming and home entertainment all into one box.
    Still sucks they went bust. What would their current gen hardware be like :-)

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    Default Re: Boo hoo my amiga

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    What would their current gen hardware be like :-)
    As much as I loved the Amiga, if they carried on I suspect they would have been shite. Stuff like A1000, A500, A2000 I believe could be compared to rival PC specs in terms of stuff like processing power and memory, however those Amigas blew PC's out of the water when it came to multimedia. As much as the AGA Amigas did improve on the earlier ones, by this stage they were lagging behind PC's in all respects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over Carl View Post
    As much as I loved the Amiga, if they carried on I suspect they would have been shite. Stuff like A1000, A500, A2000 I believe could be compared to rival PC specs in terms of stuff like processing power and memory, however those Amigas blew PC's out of the water when it came to multimedia. As much as the AGA Amigas did improve on the earlier ones, by this stage they were lagging behind PC's in all respects.
    Yes and no imho. The A4000 broke past those bottle necks and as far as rendering was concerned I believe one of those temporarily succesful series similar to Star Trek / DS9 was entirely rendered on Amiga 4000's and I also remember some (i forget which) Sheffield stadium proudly announcing using them for their massive mockup of a 100ft screen etc

    Not saying it didnt need improvments and I am seriously wearing my Rose Tinted spectacles but come on. Commodore were king ;-)

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    Just remembered it was Babylon 5 . As far as I am aware it was rendered on A4000's with the 040 Co Pro.

    Was a mildly entertaining series for the nerds.

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    The underside of the a570 drive looks like c4eva has already been here.

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    Default Re: Boo hoo my amiga

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-TED View Post
    found a really useful tool

    https://beta.amigapcb.org/

    Check it out, click on a pin or via and it does a trace on the board top and bottom shows the route it needs to go.

    Ted
    this is awesome

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    Stay away Rap or before you know it, you'll have brought a non working amiga, spent 3 weekends with a scope and soldering iron having a great time and the missus moaning in your ear something about you not seeing the family much....
    Or something like that.

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    Made up the scart cable. Well impressed with the quality of the picture.

    Got a keyboard membrane so the kb is all working.

    Next on to the mouse mod to a new laser ps2 mouse.

    Won't be long now before it goes back in the garage for another 20 years.



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    Found this now where is my cd32.... ? A project for this weekend to find and see if it still works.
    Here's hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-TED View Post
    Found this now where is my cd32.... ? A project for this weekend to find and see if it still works.
    Here's hoping.

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    I had one and loved it, iirc was it shortly after the release that Commodore went bust and as a result developers stopped making games for it, which is why I binned it off. Wish I had kept it.

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    I hope mine is at my folks somewhere. Didn't see it in the attic the ither weekend so looks like a garage rumble is on for the weekend.

    Been reading into the history of commodore, they made some gaffs,
    For example they released the CD drive that only fit the 500 at the Same time the stopped making the 500 and moved on to the 600 which it didn't fit.

    Somebody was saying they remember going in to currys and seeing the a570 next to the 600 on the shelf but they were incompatable.

    Marketing eh ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-TED View Post
    I hope mine is at my folks somewhere. Didn't see it in the attic the ither weekend so looks like a garage rumble is on for the weekend.

    Been reading into the history of commodore, they made some gaffs,
    For example they released the CD drive that only fit the 500 at the Same time the stopped making the 500 and moved on to the 600 which it didn't fit.

    Somebody was saying they remember going in to currys and seeing the a570 next to the 600 on the shelf but they were incompatable.

    Marketing eh ?



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    Yeah they dropped some huge fucking clangers but they were my childhood and gave me great joy so I love em for it.
    Shame they went the way they did. Some back handers, claims to buy em and carry them on but they for fucked over by a number of companies and fucked themselves too along they way.
    Didnt Elonex buy them at one point with various intentions and then they too were screwed ?!?!? I might have that wrong.

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    If you get 20 mins piggzy thus is worth a watch/listen.


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    Default Re: Boo hoo my amiga

    Just found another excellent web site for amiga related stuff, especially the schematics.

    https://amiga-manuals.xiik.net/amiga.php

    fill your boots.

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