Who really is in control?
//note: sorry this became longer than i thought
THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE WTC. I don't believe BILDERBERG has the appropriate skill to communicate with people his views of the WTC attacks. While I do not stand behind his views, mainly because I have not researched into it and frankly the WTC attack is not something that interests me (yes I'm less than a two hour drive from the WTC, yes I remember where I was the 'day the world stood still', yess I feel sorry for the families and all that jazz), he did bring up some points I would like to agree with. I DO NO intend to get into the affairs of the WTC attacks. Giving the benefit of the doubt to the beliefs bilderberg has, assuming that there was some sort of governmental conspiracy, here and now is neither the time nor the place to converse and disclose such information.
The ideas that our government is conspiring against the people and that it is corrupt is by no means a new idea, and in fact there is evidence of such things. I do not which to detail such things as they are not completely proven and if I were to bring up my thoughts on it most closed-minded individuals would just discredit the rest of my thread. But for more information or American and worldwide secret organization, do a google search on "Bohemian Grove" or "Trilateral Commission" for starts.
I agree with bilderberg on his statements that the government has be taking our civil liberties. Before they found legal loopholes. They couldn't monitor our phone calls or emails with out probable cause, so they set up agreements with other countries to monitor each other's citizens. Now, with recent laws, they can monitor and log all internet data and telephone calls one whomever they choose for any reason. Now they recruit one out of every 24 americans to spy on his/her fellow americans. To quote the poet/singer Sage Francis, "freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties."
But beyond the civil rights violations, there are things that to me personally are more dredful. I speak of corporate crime. One might say that a Corporation is owned by shareholders, the shareholders are citizens, and the citizens thus control the corporation. This is not true. Sure, in a sense, citizens own the corporation. The reality is the corporate heads run and operate it, and most of what goes on inside of the corporation inside information and is illegal to be made public because it is bound by agreements.
Amidst the recent public scandals of corporate crime, try to realize that this is not a rare thing, and on top of that a great deal of corporations are voilent. Much like America prior to the rise of the worker's unions, working in other countries is extremely unsafe, workers are mistreated, underpaid, and over worked. The ExxonMobile plant in Aceh (Indonesia), along with the Indonesian government, helped 'secure' the area by the use of force. ExxonMobile hired military units to guard its compounds in Aceh and later had the units attack towns. Peopler were tortured, raped, and murdered. Mass graves were dug and an unknown amt were burried (estimates are around 1000-2000). The Coca-Cola plants in Columbia had security squads sent out to disassemble groups of workers that were trying to form a worker's rights union. The oil corporation Unocal has a plant in Burma. The conditions of the local government of Burma are such that its a horrible place to be and under military rule. Unocal knowningly employed workers while the military rule of the government forced the workers to work (with voilence). Under the Alien Tort Claims Act ((ATCA), 28 U.S.C. 1350), which are rules that make an American corporation obligated to abide by American laws even if they are on foriegn soil, all of these corporations (and many others) have had lawsuits come upon them due to these situations. Because these corporations have bottomless checkbooks (especially the oil corporations), many lawsuits against them never see the light of day. These (and MANY others) corporations do these things, and they also influence governmental policies, via lobbying (not to mention that many politicians are chairs of many corporations).
Such things are not just bound to large corporations, any large group with enough money can (legally) lobby for the laws/actions they want. An example or two: In the 80s farmers felt the milk prices were too low and they were not profitting enough, so they lobbied to have something done about it. The government bought and slaughtered millions of milk producing cattle to bring supply down and demand and price up. Just recently, the steel workers of america felt that they couldnt compete with foriegn steel because the foriegn steel was cheaper and of slightly better quality, so they lobbied to Bush to have something done. Bush set high import tariffs and restrictions on imported steel, making US steel the cheapest steel to buy in america. (this also set off a chain reaction.. Russia was one of the biggest importers of steel to the united states, US is the biggest importer of chicken to Russia. In reaction to this Russia banned ALL US chicken products. So now we're gonna have a problem of chicken farmers not selling their normal amount, lets wait for them to lobby.
I realize that many disagree and that this thread will be a possible subject to flames, so I challenge you guys to think for yourself and truly analyse everything in your life (from why Bush is president(*cough bohemian grove*), to why Ford's Model A car got 21 miles per gallon and a hundred years later ford trucks get 13-18 miles per gallon (how could there be numerous safety etc technology improvements in the past 100 years, but no fuel efficiency improvements? (hell, fuel usage on cars actually shows a regression in technology) could there be collusion between car companies and oil companies?), to why your dog licks its own ass). I also invite you to reply intelligently with your views (no matter how you feel about it) or to email me at thehorrorofnonbeing@yahoo.com (the email is a play on a Calvin and Hobbes strip, I'm not some Emo-Punk hippie, thanks:))
i like quotes ;)
"Allow people to believe that they are in control, and they will allow being controlled."
~William Penn
"The researches of many commentators have already thrown much darkness on this subject, and it is probable that if they continue we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
~Mark Twain
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
~Mark Twain
enjoy.
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