DI 4000 headache

**gadgetfiend** · 26th January 2003

I am extremely pissed off, i got a hold of a 4000 box with rom 10 card paired to box. I hacked it following all instructions, got it to work all channels activated. The problem began when i couldnt order the ppv as i or the person who gave me the box didnt know the pin. Well as most of you know the 4000 hasn't got a rs 232 port (damn)
So i had to pull the jumper to clear the pin. But this also resets the net ID back to 09999, i was under the impression that when local frequency is entered in page 1 this will update to local net ID, well it hasn't and thats been ages now with talkback on and off, I know rst has had the same problem and i was wondering if any others out there has and managed to resolve it. I was also wondering is there any way usb can be used for libdebug as there must be some way companies can screen and clean and test these boxes.

:grr:

**raider** · 26th January 2003

Ive just read on modhack that a little interface can be made with a max232 to enable lidabug access if you look in the box you can see that the serial interface is enabled all the way up to the missing max232 and missing com port

**gadgetfiend** · 26th January 2003

yeah m8 i started that post too, tried to make 1 but failed miserably

oh well theres always tomorrow

**raider** · 26th January 2003

Ill have a go at doing it tommorow will let you know how i get on

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

i just tried it, it didnt work

unless i got the wrong info sent lol

can someone pm me the info ??

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

this is what i made out from the info i recieved

16 in box +5v - pin 16 max232
12 in box - pin 12 max232
pin 13 max232 - tx pin 3 db-9f
11 in box - pin 11 max232
pin 14 max232 - rx pin 2 db-9f
any gnd - pin 15 max232 - gnd pin 5 db-9f

**rIKmAN** · 27th January 2003

I am in the same position as you guys - I have a 4000-N with a NetID of 09999 that I can`t reset.

Is this a definate none-starter or could it possibly be the wrong wiring?

What is the exact error your getting, is it when using Libdebug or aren`t u even getting that far ?

I found this on modshack, which might be useful...?

After you have built it and got it working (best test is to turn LEDS on and off) then you have got ID and tried change ID using cable.cfg and it still doesn't work then bear in mind that probably on the 4000 boxes you need to use a010 for get network ID and a061XXXXX (where XXXXX is your netowrk ID) for set network ID not the default get and set in cable.cfg because that uses the 4 command not the a command.

That help at all ?

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

i got com failed

tried to wire the max232 up 2 diferent ways too
got same result each time

**rIKmAN** · 27th January 2003

Have you tried lighting up the LEDs as the quote says?
Or do you get a total failure of the COM port so you can`t even attempt this ?

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

total failure of the comm port

**the_wizzard** · 27th January 2003

do anyone know where the info ie, ppv pin ect is stored on the boxes?? in tsop? or is there a eeprom if the box key can?(hopefully) be gotten by rs232 methods then the pin shouldnt be so hard??

booboo

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

i think i read the info wrong lol

i have sorted my box now all channels working

**rIKmAN** · 27th January 2003

Even PPV on a 4000-N ?
Did making the new rs232 port work?

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

yes m8 i made the interface and edited the cfg file by changing the 4 to a

so instead or it saying 4061xxxx it now says a061xxxx etc
and it set the network id no problem remodded my rom10 card and reset ppv pin and everything works even ppv

btw the box is a di4000-T

**rIKmAN** · 27th January 2003

sswwweeeeeeeeeeet

Check PM btw

**tango man** · 27th January 2003

sent u a pm back m8

**satzzz** · 27th January 2003

This sounds promising.Maybe this should be made into a sticky with a "how to" mod a 4000 etc etc

**raider** · 27th January 2003

yes it took me all day but ive got mine working
btw even with the interface working correctly libdebug still reports a com error when first started (i think this is because it uses diferent instuctions for the 1000 and dont understand the 4000 reply) the command to update the net id was a06xxxxx not a061xxxxx you can send this from the quick command box. (under file menu i think) before trying this i had reconfigured the interface (max232 conections) about 100 times. and i ended up with more things conected than is probly needed.
the end conections were

plug->max
2 -> 14
3 -> 13
5 -> 15(earth)
7 -> 8
8 -> 7

max -> box
9 -> 9
10 -> 10
11 -> 11
12 -> 12
16 -> 16 (+5v)
15 -> 15 (earth)

hope this helps

**raider** · 27th January 2003

forgot to say you cant ligh the leds on the box even when interface is working (i think command set is different between 1000 and 4000)

**tango man** · 28th January 2003

the interface is :

needed parts :
ic max232
caps 4x 10uf elect

16 in box +5v - pin 16 max232
12 in box - pin 9 max232
pin 8 max232 - tx pin 3 db-9f
11 in box - pin 10 max232
pin 7 max232 - rx pin 2 db-9f
pin 14 max232 - dcd pin 1 db-9f
any gnd - pin 15 max232 - gnd pin 5 db-9f

the caps go:

+ to pin 1 on max232 - to pin 3 on max232
+ to pin 4 on max232 - to pin 5 on max232
+ to pin 2 on max232 - to pin 16 on max232
+ to pin 15 on max232 - to pin 6 on max232

the part in box were u need to solder to is u8600

u then need to edit ur cfg file
remove the 4 and replace with a
ie. 4061xxxx to a061xxxxx etc
run libdebug then power 4000 box
then click on set network id
all working.