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    Default Gates trying to get richer!

    What a suggestion from one of the richest men on earth!

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    The cheeky bast*rd.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    Try reading it and you'll see he's not talking about actual money but CPU time, e.g.:

    Instead of paying a penny, the sender would "buy" postage by devoting maybe 10 seconds of computing time to solving a math puzzle

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    so people buy faster pcs, or more pcs, from pcworld or some other shitty shop with windows preinstalled = money for microsoft?

    if you use a email service other than hotmail and use some commonsense spam isnt a problem anyway

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSheds
    so people buy faster pcs, or more pcs, from pcworld or some other shitty shop with windows preinstalled = money for microsoft?

    if you use a email service other than hotmail and use some commonsense spam isnt a problem anyway

    They will probably go for a scenario where you request to send an email and the authentification server will block you for a few seconds before allowing the email to be sent. So it won't matter if you have a P166 or a 3ghz machine ... the delay is not under your control.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    some clever git would work around it so all the spammers can send at there usual rate while every else is stuck with hanging computers while sending out there emails. Plus spammers don't send an email like we do, they send them directly from the server, usually free hosting services servers too.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    solve a maths puzzle?? lol

    wot if i is 2 fik to sulve a mafs puzzel?

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    I run my own mail server anyway, so Gates can charge everybody else what he likes

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    not you you spaz, the computer



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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    I run my own mail server anyway, so Gates can charge everybody else what he likes
    you being the funky computer chappy that you are, i take it you have done that thingie that you need to do to stop spammers from being able to use it? if everyone would do whatever that thing was (there was an url somewhere that told you about it - anyone have it) then spam wouldnt happen anyway.

    it had something to do with stopping them from using it to relay mail. also bad for you cos it means all mail from your server gets added to filters and stuff.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    I would imagine pegasus has :-)

    I know I have done to mine ne way.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    if you have done it then do you know the url you can use to check if yours is vunerable? hopefully get everyone to check and fix

    i don't know much about email servers tbh, only type of server i havnt set up just for the sake of it this is making me want to though...

    anyway as usual i am taking this thread miles off topic.

    surely as peagasus said if microsoft introduced this all the people who use non-microsoft email servers would just refuse to do it, to avoid hassling their real customers?

    plus the companies would be paying money to use the CPU time - where does the money go? also what are they calculating? might seem ok like seti style stuff but they could just be using that cpu time to plan bomb droppings or something

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    I use several programs to scan my pc, but LAN guard is probably a good starting point.

    as for URL's on how to tighten it up i dunno m8t, try google I done mine through experiance and reading security bullitins at work.

    good anti spam / hack hint tho.

    If you dig through MSDN you can find how to adjust the IP stack on windows so a scan of your PC will give the impression of being a unix box when its a windows one.

    Then if someone trys to attack it with a unix attack they get nowhere. My firewall logs show ppl launching unix attackes several times a day to no effect :-)

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    2 fik
    well there ya go then

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    Quote Originally Posted by oE
    good anti spam / hack hint tho.

    If you dig through MSDN you can find how to adjust the IP stack on windows so a scan of your PC will give the impression of being a unix box when its a windows one.

    Then if someone trys to attack it with a unix attack they get nowhere. My firewall logs show ppl launching unix attackes several times a day to no effect :-)

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    TwoSheds, they dont want to charge money, they want to charge processor time, so that you dont notice much delay when sending a few emails, but if you try sending 1,000,000, your PC would take forever.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSheds
    you being the funky computer chappy that you are, i take it you have done that thingie that you need to do to stop spammers from being able to use it?
    No mate, I left it open so anybody can use it to send crap any time they like

    Yes TwoSheds, that was one of the first things that got done as soon as it went online.

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    i mean what does the cpu time do? it must do something for someone and they must pay for it.

    Pegasus lol when you say it like that it sounds obvious obviously common knoledge amongst techies - i am gonna try the one at school actually cos the techie there is an idiot - "that pc isn't going to break" me:"yes it is" i have just been told that the fire has finally been put out. rofl anyway thats just me being enourmoulsy smart as usual

    good to know you and oe are helping stop spam if you had a router/firewal would that not accidentally stop outside acess anyway? as in you actually have to set it up to work from outside? i hope so for the sake of anti-spam people

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSheds
    i mean what does the cpu time do? it must do something for someone and they must pay for it.

    Pegasus lol when you say it like that it sounds obvious obviously common knoledge amongst techies - i am gonna try the one at school actually cos the techie there is an idiot - "that pc isn't going to break" me:"yes it is" i have just been told that the fire has finally been put out. rofl anyway thats just me being enourmoulsy smart as usual

    good to know you and oe are helping stop spam if you had a router/firewal would that not accidentally stop outside acess anyway? as in you actually have to set it up to work from outside? i hope so for the sake of anti-spam people

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    Default Re: Gates trying to get richer!

    rofl ok crossed line once again

    just feel compelling urge to post shite - i am gonna start up twosheds-digital-forums.com and just ban all memebers except me so that i can post bullshit without getting into trouble

    actually i just read my post and it has made me realise why the edit button now expires

    sorry

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