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    Bad News Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Dimmock, Titchmarsh and Walsh presented the show until 2001

    Gardening TV show Ground Force is "probably coming to the end of its life", said BBC director general Mark Thompson after calls for it to be axed.

    The show which began in 1998 was "very good", he told BBC Radio Five Live.

    "But some years later there are copycat programmes of Ground Force and Changing Rooms around and I think it's time to try something new and fresh."

    On Wednesday, a government Green Paper said the BBC should not "play copycat" or "chase ratings for ratings sake".

    "It's very important when a programme is reaching the end of its natural life that you move on before it becomes tiresome to the public," Mr Thompson said.

    I think the public do get very cross when the see the BBC flogging a dead horse


    Mark Thompson

    "I think the public do get very cross when they see the BBC flogging a dead horse."

    Ground Force was originally presented by Alan Titchmarsh, Charlie Dimmock and Tommy Walsh, but Titchmarsh quit the show in 2001.

    Last year Walsh announced he was also leaving to front his own series.

    Changing Rooms was axed by the BBC last August after eight years.

    'Real originality'

    Mr Thompson said: "The public want ambitious programmes from the BBC and real originality.

    "What they don't want to see - which has happened occasionally, not often, but occasionally - is to see a programme on Channel 4 or Five and then to see a programme that looks a bit like it turning up on the BBC a few months later."

    The BBC owed it to the licence fee payer to spend their money on quality programmes instead of chasing ratings, Mr Thompson said.

    "The BBC gets the licence fee from the public. It doesn't have to take cynical or commercial decisions, it should really put its money where its heart is," he said.


    (The BBC) doesn't have to take cynical or commercial decisions, it should really put its money where its heart is


    Mark Thompson

    Mr Thompson told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme that he did not believe this would be the final Royal Charter to renew the licence fee.

    "Each time when alternatives are looked into by the people who consider these things, they end up concluding that the licence fee is the best of the available options," he said.

    "The research the DCMS has done has concluded that the public are still very keen - as well as having a big, open market - in having a strong and independent BBC funded by the licence fee.

    "I believe that in 2012, and beyond 2012, that may well still be the case."

    Union opposition

    On Wednesday, three trade unions launched a campaign to oppose BBC plans that would cut at least 2,900 jobs.

    "I think the debate there is whether you save the BBC by keeping it exactly as it is now, or by transforming it to meet the challenges of this next digital period," Mr Thompson said.

    "What we are trying to do is to use as much of the licence fee as we can on content firstly - rather than on overheads and bureaucracy - and secondly to try and find the investment to take advantage of these new digital platforms. "That does mean some tough choices now."





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    What the hell is wrong with those jumped up arseholes at the top of the BBC ? This is one of thier best bloody programmes FFS ! :annoyed:
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2
    What the hell is wrong with those jumped up arseholes at the top of the BBC ? This is one of thier best bloody programmes FFS ! :annoyed:
    Your kidding right 4me2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner
    Your kidding right 4me2?
    :nono
    So what bbc programmes do you consider to be better then ?
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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    it was sh*t after titchmarsh left, they should have nailed it a long time ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2
    So what bbc programmes do you consider to be better then ?
    Little Britain, Red Dwarf, Life of Grime, Only Fools and Horses (even repeats), Match Of The Day.....

    Groundforce is rubbish imo, and wtf are they doing all these shows abroad for? Glad to see my license money is being spent well... :grr:
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    Little britain and red dwarf are total crap .
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    did anybody ever see monkey dust before it moved to bbc3

    it was great

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2
    Little britain and red dwarf are total crap .
    And you are welcome to your opinion m8.
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    eastenders (ok not great but i'd say the better of the soaps), red dwarf, only fools, alan partridge, spaced...

    there's muchos better on the BBC than saggy tit force...However in saying that, GF is a lot better than other programs like any cookery program they do, changing rooms, antique/car boot/house programs, neighbours, foooooookin films (most BBC films are dire).

    the BBC isn't great but if it was free then i'd feel a lot better about it, as it stands £100+ a year isn't worth it for the shows I watch on it...however their website is quality.
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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    I'm afraid to admit it as Wiz will probably call me a tree hugging n3rd ... but I like GF.

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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Never the same after Alan left, watched a few episodes and switched off. Just not the same, would be like removing Hannibal from the A-Team.

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    and they had the League of Gentlemen too...****ing classic program :thumbs

    the BBC has stronger stuff that GF, it's the earl grey of the bbc
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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Quote Originally Posted by shangrula
    eastenders (ok not great but i'd say the better of the soaps), red dwarf, only fools, alan partridge, spaced....
    channel 4 ... cough.

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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Quote Originally Posted by marcode
    channel 4 ... cough.
    if I understand what that meant it means 'channel 4 is the best channel'

    I totaly agree if you mean that it's by far the superiour channel to all other Uk terristerials. BBC2 used to be close but now it's as bad as BBC1. ITV and Channel5 are utter utter shite and will not be watched unless it's really worth it.

    if you meant something else, sorry :cartman
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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    learnt a bit from this show and my garden has changed a bit with some of the things that they have done so imo its sad if they do sack it.

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    Default Re: Ground Force 'coming to its end'

    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2
    Little britain and red dwarf are total crap .
    Little Brittan yes I agree utter pants, but please Red Dwarf is one of the best series made by the bbc, along with hitch-hikers guide, one foot in the grave, small problem, only fools & horses, porrige etc... all classics.

    As for the actual subject, GROUND FORCE - good in its day and could still have some intrest, but if BBC want to axe well no great loss as repeats and spin off prog's abundant.
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