Fraudsters move online to beat "chip and PIN"

**Deadly** · 8th November 2005

LONDON (Reuters) - Credit card fraudsters are moving online because the introduction of "chip and PIN" card verification systems has made it harder to commit high street fraud, the country's banking payment association said on Tuesday.

The spread of chip and PIN -- which requires people to type in their card numbers when making purchases -- helped lead to a 13 percent fall in credit card fraud in the first six months of 2005, the first significant fall for 10 years, APACS said.

In sharp contrast Internet, telephone and mail order fraud -- collectively known as "card not present" crimes -- went up by 29 percent to 90.6 million pounds with online fraud accounting for 64 percent of this.

"The majority of this type of fraud is card details being stolen in the real world and then used to buy goods on the Internet," said APACS spokesman Mark Bowerman.

APACS, the trade association for organisations that deliver payment services to end customers, said 117 million of the country's 140 million payment cards have been upgraded to chip and PIN since the programme began in late 2003.

Malcolm Coles, editor of consumer magazine Which?, said more than half of the country's 42 million cardholders put themselves at unnecessary risk of fraud by failing to perform basic security measures.

A fifth of cardholders surveyed by Which? said they did not check their credit card statements properly and a fifth said they would give their account details out to a stranger on the phone if that person claimed to be phoning from their bank or credit card company.

Surveys have also shown that many people were unaware of phishing -- fake emails pretending to come from banks demanding details.

APACS said internet users could take simple steps to minimise the risks of them becoming Internet fraud victims.

These included logging out of their computer after online shopping or checking bank details making sure Web sites were secure before purchasing goods.

Bowerman also said those who check their banking details online should override their computer's "cookie" system that remember passwords.

Source - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/08112005/80...-chip-pin.html

So, it looks like they helped one problem, but at the same time they created an even bigger one! i guess that was inevitable though.

**Pegasus** · 8th November 2005

Originally Posted by Deadly

So, it looks like they helped one problem, but at the same time they created an even bigger one! i guess that was inevitable though.

Car manufacturers managed to create a similar 'headache' some some time ago when 'chipped' keys became the norm.
Now instead of simply having your car stolen from outside your house at night, you either end up getting burgled beforehand, or you get dragged out at a set of lights before your car is taken from you because the prospective thief actually needs the keys to get the car started.

**urbsy** · 8th November 2005

Originally Posted by Pegasus Team

Car manufacturers managed to create a similar 'headache' some some time ago when 'chipped' keys became the norm.
Now instead of simply having your car stolen from outside your house at night, you either end up getting burgled beforehand, or you get dragged out at a set of lights before your car is taken from you because the prospective thief actually needs the keys to get the car started.

Well said pt, car theft has stepped up into a violent gear now, it's awfull.

urbsy

**flumperino** · 8th November 2005

Originally Posted by Pegasus Team

Car manufacturers managed to create a similar 'headache' some some time ago when 'chipped' keys became the norm.
Now instead of simply having your car stolen from outside your house at night, you either end up getting burgled beforehand, or you get dragged out at a set of lights before your car is taken from you because the prospective thief actually needs the keys to get the car started.

crikey, never thought of that. Looks like the manufacturers didn't either

**CJCROCKO** · 8th November 2005

dont most of the places only deliver to the register address on the card, especially on the first order

also i bet loads of dumbass do this and use there proper address for the police to come and collect them along with the fradulent items...

**slartibartfast** · 9th November 2005

Originally Posted by Pegasus Team

Car manufacturers managed to create a similar 'headache' some some time ago when 'chipped' keys became the norm.
Now instead of simply having your car stolen from outside your house at night, you either end up getting burgled beforehand, or you get dragged out at a set of lights before your car is taken from you because the prospective thief actually needs the keys to get the car started.

Let's hope that fingerprint recognition doesn't become the norm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4396831.stm