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    Default Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems


    'Licensed drug dealers could undercut illegal counterparts'
    Senior Liberal Democrats have urged the party's leadership to consider backing the legalisation of all drugs.
    Chris Davies MEP said the "war on drugs" had been lost and the only way to undermine the criminals controlling the trade was legalisation.

    Speaking at a fringe meeting at the party's Brighton conference, he urged Lib Dems to lobby home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg to change policy.

    He was backed by education spokesman Baroness Walmsley.

    She told the meeting it was time to "think the unthinkable" on the drugs issue and consider legalisation.

    "I think the issue is a no-brainer. We have got to go along this direction," she said.

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    It would contribute to harm reduction, tackle gun culture, save police time and reduce the amount of drug-related crime including theft.

    "We are not talking about selling penny packets in a sweet shop. We are talking about sensible controls," she told the meeting.

    She urged party members to "perhaps write to Nick Clegg and say we want more discussion in the party".

    She denied the stance was seeking to turn Britain into the drug capital of the world.

    "The last thing we would want is for any child to take drugs," she said.

    "But also people should have the freedom to put into their bodies what they want without any more harm than they would want."

    'Ammunition'

    Mr Davies, who is an outspoken campaigner for the decriminalisation of drugs, said he wanted the Lib Dem policy on drugs to be "looked at again".

    "I hope Nick Clegg will explore this issue again. I know from brief talks with him he is mindful to do so but I know he is mindful of giving ammunition to his opposition," he told the meeting.

    The North West MEP likened the "war on drugs" to the Emperor's new clothes. "We keep saying 'war on drugs' year in year out but it achieves nothing.

    "It's time to stop pointing and laughing at this piece of nonsense."

    Mr Davies said he had never taken an illegal drug but had once been arrested for possession of a tiny quantity of cannabis he was using to illustrate a point at a public meeting.

    'Licensed outlet'

    He said state licensed drug dealers could undercut illegal dealers on price and put them out of business.

    He also called for a debate about how drugs would be sold once they had been legalised, "if you are going to sell it through a licensed outlet, a chemist's shop or something like a sex shop".

    He argued that legalisation could not just occur within the UK but had to happen around the world.

    He urged party members to lobby the United Nations, which meets in Vienna in March to reconsider the 1961 convention on illegal drugs, which guides policy around the world.

    'Fighting hard'

    Inspector Jim Duffy, chairman of the Strathclyde Police Federation, backed Mr Davies' call for legalisation.

    Stressing that he was speaking in a personal capacity and not on behalf of Strathclyde Police, the inspector said: "We are not winning the war against illegal drugs.

    "We are fighting hard, becoming smarter and sharper; as are those we are fighting against. If the current rules of engagement do not change then we are destined to continue to fail."

    He said drug addicts should be given access to substances that "do exactly what they say on the tin".

    "Lives could be saved if addicts purchasing regulated drugs could be sure of their strength and purity," he added.
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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    ha yeah right. They have no chance.
    I'm new to this :huh:

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    he makes a good point, the war on drugs will never be won.. not by the government anyway.

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    it sounds crazy - but in reality its the only way to beat drugs crime

    just think of how much crime would go down !drugs legaility is a state of mind - look at the usa you can get 20 years for cannabis - rediculous

    the problem you will have is stopping people from countries where it is illegal buying from a country where its legal

    doesnt seem to harm amsterdam tho

    no doubt a lot of pc groups will scream at this - my answer to them woule be - ok come up with a better solution for beating it then

    the way to beat drug crime is to not make it a crime. end of.

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    It's a pointless debate, it will never happen. There are far too many vested interests in the 'War On Drugs'.......and even if the will was with the politicains they haven't got the balls to make those decisions and risk alienating their sponsors. So, as merely voters, we certainly won't get any say.

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    I dont really thing legallising it would make it any less of a problem. It would be another area for the government to tax us tho.

    Legalising a problem doesnt make it any less of a problem and no doubt running such a complex drug operation would cost the tax payer billions yet again.

    Regulating strengths of drugs via an outlet would only lead to underground groups mixing up stronger shit and selling it. Its a problem thats just not going to go away. I think id rather it was left as it is now than make the lib dems sort of changes. Junkees dont vote anyway so they have no chance

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    I'm a bit too pissed to make a serious argument, but if the govt. cant do anything against drugs, why is there virtually no weed round here?

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    the way the weather is going w'll be able to grow it on the back garden soon, ive heard that its short everywhere, i dont smoke it myself

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    Yeh, thats never going to happen, its too big a step, maybe start by legalising weed and see how that goes

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    Legalising a problem doesnt make it any less of a problem and no doubt running such a complex drug operation would cost the tax payer billions yet again.
    Yea but legalising the problem of drugs is not intended to fix the problem of drug consumption. It is intended to tackle the organised crime behind it and it certainly would make it less of a problem. I think it would pay for itself as it can be run as a nationalised business.

    Bear in mind that the government could get drugs in at say, ball park, 10 percent of what people pay at the minute and still sell at 10 times that (ie todays prices) as much or more than is sold illegally now. Drug dealers make huge amounts of money and this is money the business would now make. They would be perfectly legitimate in keeping the prices artificially high as their responsibility is to provide drugs to help society in general be rid of organised crime, not to provide 'good value'.

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    It should all be legalised, drug dealers out of business over night, crime rates would fall, kids would'nt want to do drugs anymore cos its legal, so its not cool

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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    crime rates would fall if all drugs were legalised? kids would not want to do them?
    everyone who grows up knows the challenge is to get some thing there not legally old enough to have, 18+ vids,fags,ale,pussy. wont it be good when there getting crack and smack for there friday nights on the streets,should be addicts by half term.
    lib dems are full of shite,no one will be able afford to tax there car but at least people can get a fix under them.
    the goverment are losing the war on drugs becasue they dont want to win it.
    there not winning the war on pircay,child porn,illegal immagrants or guns either but it looks like the lib dems have a solution for that.
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    Default Re: Legalise all drugs, say Lib Dems

    i think all drugs should be legalised for the reasons mentioned above. However, if this were to happen, i feel that drugs which have a serious negative impact on society and personal health such as heroin and crack should not be sold in the same manner that the dutch sell weed rather ppl who want/need it shud be made to register themselves as drug dependant and only after that would they be allowed it. This could possibly provide the distinction needed between sociable nd harder drugs

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