Survey Results: White Men Have the Biggest Dicks (contains a couple of cock pictures)
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<H1><CENTER>THE DEFINITIVE PENIS SIZE SURVEY RESULTS</CENTER>
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<CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>SIXTH EDITION</FONT></B> <BR>
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Welcome to the sixth edition of <A HREF="quest.html">"The Definitive Penis Size Survey"</A>!
For those new to this site, the discussion below pertains to the
results of the most exhaustive penis size survey conducted to
date. Questions concerning everything from actual penis dimensions
to the possible correlation between size and other parts of the
body, to "owner" satisfaction have been asked in a serious
attempt to dissect penis fact from "phallic fallacy".
With a combined adolescent/adult sample size in excess of 3,100
subjects, a high degree of statistical precision has been achieved.
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In order to expedite the writing process of this communication,
I have followed the same format of previous editions. A number
of topics, however, are covered in slightly greater depth than
before and I have introduced three new graphics.<BR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>BEFORE WE BEGIN</CENTER></H1>
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In a number of the analyses that follow, penis size has been classified
according to the subject's perceived endowment status (ref. question
43 of the questionnaire). The dimensions of this "self-ranked
endowment status" are summarized in the table below.<BR>
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<CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=4>MEAN VALUES OF SELF-RANKED ENDOWMENT STATUS
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<TR><TD WIDTH=130><CENTER><B>VARIABLE</B></CENTER></TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER><B>MODEST</B></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER><B>AVERAGE</B></CENTER></TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER><B>ENDOWED</B></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=130><CENTER><B>Erect Length</B></CENTER></TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER>141.5mm (5.6"</CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER>161.8mm (6.4"
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=130><CENTER><B>Erect Circumference</B></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER>117.6mm (4.6"
</TD><TD WIDTH=148><CENTER>137.8mm (5.4"
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With the exception of "Penis Size and Age" and "On
Circumcision, the analyses discussed below pertain to adult subjects,
18 years of age and older.
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The inclusion of minimal, and particularly maximal penile dimensions
have caused many of you to question the validity of my data. Blatantly
fraudulent responses (from 17 year old lawyers or those claiming
"American Zulu warrior" ancestry, for example) are excluded
from entry into the database as are penis lengths in excess of
360mm (14.2"
(for those 18 years and older) and top 2% (for all age groups)
of each of the five penile measurements studied have also been
excluded from the analysis. I realize that this is a rather conservative
approach, but the fact that my results are very close to that
reported by Kinsey et al. and the almost symmetric distribution
of erect penis lengths, leads me to suspect that any residual
and unavoidable contamination has been kept to a minimum.<BR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>SUBJECT CHARACTERISTICS </CENTER></H1>
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<CENTER><TABLE BORDER=2><CAPTION><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>Personal Data of Adult Subjects </FONT></CENTER>
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<TR><TH WIDTH=303><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>Variable</FONT></B></CENTER>
</TH><TH WIDTH=271><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>Value</FONT></B></CENTER>
</TH></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=303><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>Sample Size</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=271><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>2,545</FONT></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=303><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>Average Age</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=271><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>29.7yrs</FONT></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=303><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>Average Weight</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=271><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>80.9 kg (178.3 lbs)</FONT></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=303><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>Average Height</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=271><CENTER><FONT SIZE=5>1.80 m (70.8"
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>PENIS DIMENSIONS</CENTER></H1>
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<CENTER><TABLE 2 ALIGN=CENTER>
<TR><TD ROWSPAN=2><FONT SIZE=2>Please note that all measurements are expressed in metric units with corresponding imperial units in brackets.</FONT>
</TD><TH COLSPAN=4><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>VITAL PENIS STATISTICS FOR MEN 18 YEARS AND OLDER </FONT></B></CENTER>
</TH></TR>
<TR><TH><CENTER><B>Mean± Standard Deviation </B></CENTER>
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>95% Confidence Interval </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>Maximum </B></CENTER>
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>Minimum </B></CENTER></TH></TR>
<TR><TD><B>LENGTH OF FLACCID PENIS</B> </TD><TD>86.3mm(3.4"
</TD><TD>85.2mm(3.4"
</TD><TD>25mm(1.0"
<TR><TD><B>LENGTH OF ERECT PENIS</B> </TD><TD>161.5mm(6.4"
</TD><TD>160.2mm(6.3"
</TD><TD>68(2.7"
<TR><TD><B>CIRCUMFERENCE OF ERECT PENIS</B> </TD><TD>127.6mm(5.0"
</TD><TD>126.6mm(5.0"
</TD><TD>60mm(2.4"
<TR><TD><B>LENGTH OF HEAD</B></TD><TD>39.5mm(1.6"
</TD><TD>38.5mm(1.5"
</TD><TD>12mm(0.5"
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<P>Figure 3 illustrates the bell-shaped distribution of erect penis lengths, thereby
justifying the use of the parametric statistical tests that follow.<BR>
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<P align="left"><img src="http://www.sizesurvey.com/fig4.gif" width="347" height="285" align="left">
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<P align="left">Although it was not part of my original analysis, a number of
you have asked whether gay or bisexual men are more endowed than straight men.
As we can see from figure 4, there was no statistical difference in erect penis
length amongst the three groups.<BR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>MEASURING UP</CENTER></H1>
<P>
To determine more precisely how you compare with the 2,545 adult
subjects who participated in this survey, I have divided the data
into percentiles of 10 percentile increments. If, for example,
your erect penis measures 155 mm, the table below indicates that
this size falls between the 40th and 50th percentile. In other
words, at least 40% of the men fell below this value and at least
50% were above. In the upcoming expanded version of this edition,
the chart below has been replaced by three graphs which provide
an even greater degree of precision.
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<CENTER><TABLE 2 ALIGN=CENTER>
<TR><TD ROWSPAN=13></TD><TH COLSPAN=4><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>PENIS DIMENSIONS BY PERCENTILES FOR MEN 18 YEARS AND OLDER </FONT></B></CENTER>
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>PERCENTILE </B></CENTER></TH><TH ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER><B>FLACCID </B></CENTER>
</TH><TH ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER><B>ERECT </B></CENTER></TH><TH ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER><B>CIRCUMFERENCE </B></CENTER>
</TH></TR>
<TR><TH><CENTER><B>0 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>25(1.0"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>68(2.7"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>10 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>50(2.0"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>125(4.9"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>20 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>60(2.4"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>140(5.5"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>30 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>73(2.9"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>147(5.8"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>40 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>80(3.1"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>152(6.0"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>50 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>88(3.5"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>160(6.3"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>60 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>95(3.7"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>170(6.7"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>70 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>100(3.9"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>176(6.9"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>80 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>110(4.3"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>185(7.3"
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<TR><TH><CENTER><B>90 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>120(4.7"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>200(7.9"
</TH></TR>
<TR><TH><CENTER><B>100 </B></CENTER></TH><TH><CENTER><B>157(6.2"
</TH><TH><CENTER><B>260(10.2"
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>PENIS SIZE AND RACE</CENTER></H1>
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Since the release of the fifth edition, the number of Black and
Hispanic participants has not substantially increased. Because
of the continued low sample sizes therefore, the results reported
below concerning the aforementioned groups must be considered
tentative, pending a larger number of responses.
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Surprisingly, it would appear from Figure 5, that contrary to
popular myth, Black males have shorter erect lengths than their
Caucasian counterparts. However, due to the small sample size
and large variation in lengths, this "difference" is
not statistically significant. The average flaccid length among
Blacks however was 93.8mm (3.7"
for Caucasians, which may be responsible for the impression that
Black men have greater erect dimensions. Again, I emphasize that
these observations must remain tentative.
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There was a significant difference in length between Caucasians
and both Hispanic and East Asians (those of Chinese, Japanese,
Korean or Vietnamese descent). Whereas with Hispanics, such a
difference was limited to erect length only, with East Asians
all five measurements were statistically lower in comparison to
Caucasians. Although part of this difference may be due to the
shorter stature of East Asians (see "On Correlations"
below), height matched comparisons with Caucasian subjects nevertheless
failed to alter this finding.<BR>
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<P>The figure to the left summarizes the results of question 44, in which men
were asked to rate members of their own ethnic group with respect to size. Of
particular interest was the response of East Asian subjects. Among East Asians
residing in the East, 31% felt that they were generally of modest size, compared
to 56% of those living in the West. This is probably due to the fact that Western
countries tend to be more racially diverse, allowing for greater interaction
and hence comparison with men of different ethnic backgrounds. It is also interesting
to note that the vast majority of Black subjects stated that they tended to
be well endowed; an opinion which was not borne out by the results of this study.<BR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>PENIS SIZE AND AGE</CENTER></H1>
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I was initially surprised by the number of responses from teenagers
and, although my survey wasn't specifically designed to detect
changes in penis size during puberty, the data collected so far
has revealed some rather interesting findings.
<P>
As of this edition, and as illustrated in Figure 7, average erect
penis length increased until the age of 16, a finding that marks
a departure from the five previous editions of this page, which
reported that such a developmental milestone occurred at age 17.
With respect to adolescent lengths, it is interesting to note
that the results presented here are almost identical to that of
another online survey, the results of which are located at <A HREF="http://www.dnai.com/~ibex/jackmisc/jacklib/jacksurvey3.html">http://www.dnai.com/~ibex/jackmisc/jacklib/jacksurvey3.html</A>.
The apparent variation in average size between the ages of 16
to 49 was due to random sampling error and was not statistically
significant..
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The situation with regard to erect penis length beyond the age
of 50 remains somewhat nebulous. According to the graph below,
there was essentially no difference in size with respect to younger
age groups. However, I have detected a progressive, yet slight
decline in length among older men in this group. Unfortunately,
due to the modest sample size of such individuals, it was not
possible to determine whether this was a statistical anomaly or
an anatomical consequence of the aging process.
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>ON ERECTIONS</CENTER></H1>
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The data indicates that during an erection, the average increase
in penis size was 197.9%. However, for men whose flaccid penis
measured 80 mm (3.1"
to 165.3% for those greater than this length (<I>p</I><0.0001).
This principle is demonstrated in Figure 8, which reveals a strong
negative correlation between flaccid length and the percent increase
during an erection.
<P> <img src="http://www.sizesurvey.com/fig8.gif" align="LEFT">
<P>It is also interesting to note that there was less variation in erect penis
lengths relative to flaccid lengths. This convergence in penis size is illustrated
by comparing the coefficient of variation (CV), a unitless measure of variability
obtained by dividing the standard deviation by the mean and expressing the result
as a percentage. The CV for flaccid lengths was 31.4 whereas in the erect state
it decreased to 19.5.
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When erect the position of greatest girth was as follows; head
36%, uniform 32%, base 25% and some other location 7%.
<P> Forty eight per cent stated that their penis was straight when erect, 28%
reported a deviation to the left or right and 24% claimed to have a bend (presumably
in the shaft).
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>ON CIRCUMCISION</CENTER></H1>
<P>
Unlike a previously published study in the medical literature,
I did not detect a significant difference in erect length (or
the other four measurements) between circumcised and uncircumcised
individuals.
<P>
Overall, 70% of the subjects were circumcised, 27% were uncircumcised
and 3% did not specify their circumcision status. Of the 633 men
responding outside of the U.S.A. and Canada who specified their
status, 64% were uncircumcised. Not unexpectedly, this compares
to 40% of Canadians and only 15% of Americans.
<P>
The proportion of those claiming to be content, neutral or discontent
concerning their circumcision status was almost equal between
the two groups (approximately 66%, 21% and 13% respectively).
Among those who were content however, there was a striking difference
with regard to sexual orientation. Seventy-two per cent of circumcised
straight males expressed contentment with their circumcision status
while only 58% of circumcised gay or bisexuals felt the same way
(<I>p</I><0.001).
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>ON CORRELATIONS</CENTER></H1>
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<p> </p><P>With the rather impressive number of responses I have amassed since the inception
of this survey, I have detected that, on average, there exists a strong relationship
between erect penis length and height, as illustrated in Figure 9. For the purposes
of demonstrating possible correlations between length and various hand and foot
measurements, it became necessary to control for this phenomena by performing
a partial correlation between length and the various measurements in question.
The results of such an analysis are presented below.<BR>
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<div align="center"><B>Body Part</B></div>
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<TD WIDTH=225 height="28">
<CENTER><B>Partial Correlation Coefficient</B></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=202><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>middle finger to palm distance</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=225><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>0.25</FONT></CENTER></TD>
</TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=202><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>length of thumb</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=225><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>0.25</FONT></CENTER></TD>
</TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=202><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>length of big toe</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=225><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>0.18</FONT></CENTER></TD>
</TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=202><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>shoe size</FONT></CENTER>
</TD><TD WIDTH=225><CENTER><FONT SIZE=2>0.08</FONT></CENTER></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
<div align="left">With the exception of shoe size, there exists a significant
but weak correlation for each of the body parts studied. (Please note that
questions regarding nose length and width are recent additions to the survey,
and at the time of this writing I had insufficient data to perform a reliable
statistical analysis.) <BR>
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Figure 10 reveals the significant relationship between erect length
and circumference.<BR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>SIZE PERCEPTION</CENTER></H1>
<P> The following discussion pertains to Section E of the survey which attempts
to assess the degree of accuracy by which penis size is estimated. The results
of the first three sets of test subjects are located on a <A HREF="percept.html">separate
page</A>.
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As shown in the figure below, subjects A and B were significantly
over or underestimated respectively. Although subject A is of
modest endowment in terms of length, his circumference is average,
and this may have contributed to the overestimation. Subject B's
flaccid length was correctly estimated to be 124mm (4.9"
but his predicted erect length, like that of subject A in Set
1, was underestimated. This provides further support that assessing
a person's endowment status based solely on the basis of flaccid
size is highly unreliable.
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As in all other sets, estimates were found to be independent of
age, sexual orientation, number of male sexual partners, self
ranked endowment status or contentment status.
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<TR><TD COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=583><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>SUBJECT A</FONT></B></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=292><CENTER><A NAME="UQHTML11"><B>Estimated Erect Length</B> </A></CENTER>
<CENTER>127mm (5.0"
</TD><TD WIDTH=291><CENTER><B>Actual Erect Length</B></CENTER>
<CENTER>121mm (4.75"
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<TR><TD WIDTH=292><BR>
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</TD><TD WIDTH=291><CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.sizesurvey.com/sub1s4m.gif"></CENTER></TD>
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<TR><TD COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=583><CENTER><B><FONT SIZE=5>SUBJECT B</FONT></B></CENTER>
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=292><CENTER><B>Estimated Erect Length Based on Flaccid View</B></CENTER>
<CENTER>184mm (7.25"
</TD><TD WIDTH=291><CENTER><B>Actual Erect Length</B></CENTER>
<CENTER>190mm (7.5"
</TD></TR>
<TR><TD WIDTH=292><CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.sizesurvey.com/sub2s4.gif"></CENTER></TD>
<TD WIDTH=291><CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.sizesurvey.com/sub2s4m.gif"></CENTER></TD></TR>
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<H1 ALIGN=CENTER><CENTER>SOME PENILE TRIVIA <BR>
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<P>
As in previous editions of this communication, body builders tended
to be more endowed than "couch potatoes" (170.5mm or
6.7" vs. 160.7mm or 6.3" p<0.001).
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In addition, the difference in flaccid length between those who
are reluctant to potentially expose their penis to public scrutiny
and those who are not remained strong (81.0mm or 3.2" vs.
89.6mm or 3.5" respectively <I>p</I><0.001). A larger
difference however, existed with respect to erect lengths (166.8mm
or 6.6" vs. 153.3mm or 6.1" respectively <I>p</I><0.001).
A similar relationship was seen with regard to potential exposure
to male family members.<BR>
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<P>As illustrated in figure 11, well endowed men had more sexual partners per
year than their average or modestly endowed counterparts. The data reveals that
these men were more self-confident which may, in part, explain this finding.<BR>
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<P>As illustrated in figure 12, a striking difference existed in the response
pattern between gay/bisexual men and straight men when these individuals viewed
a well endowed male (ref. survey question 47). Gay and bisexual men tended more
to express arousal (36%) or awe (28%), while straight men were more likely to
be indifferent (29%) or envious (21%). Among both groups, those who were indifferent
had significantly larger erect penises than those who felt either intimidation
or inadequacy (<I>p</I><0.001).
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