any broadband where you ACTUALLY get what you pay for?

[Lighty]

BT Copper lines are run in whats called Trunk Mains, therefore the more you are off the beaten track the longer the lines are likely to be for example there will be main feeds running straight up a very busy main road and then what they call trunks coming off the main down every road and then off those roads into every street and so on, so as someone already said your "as the crow flies" distance maybe 400 Yds or less but actual measured routed length could be over a KM but as a general rule BT say that under 1 KM full speed is allowed over 2.5/3km then half the speed and so on.THere are also lots of other factors invoved such as Electrical interference one of the worst is sub stations, due to the conductiveness of the copper, even adverse weather can effect Noise on a line, then there is the BT Final Loop this is the line between your Phone Master Socket and the Telegraph Pole, mine was so old it was deteriating at the top so I accidently hit it with a chisel and BT replaced it, also another thing to do is get an NTE5 Filtered master socket, these are much better than the standard ones and are already filtered, and try to plug the router straight into the socket rather than using extensions. Thats all you can really do at your end.

[crazyadi]

hey tin man...
finally managed to get into the page you told me to for my settings! this is what i get...

Item Value
ADSL Line Type GDMT
ADSL Line CodingADSL Line Coding INTERLEAVED
Line Attenuation (Down):24 (Up):14
Noise Margin (Down):7 (Up):29
Total Output Power (Down):0 (Up):0
Current State DownStr: 8128(K) UpStr: 448(K)
undefined UP
FEC(FAST) (Near):0 (Far):0
FEC(INTERL) (Near):0 (Far):212853
CRC(FAST) (Near):0 (Far):0
undefined (Near):0 (Far):183
HEC(FAST) (Near):0 (Far):0
HEC(FAST) (Near):0 (Far):0
Showtime last(sec) 75
ADSL FW Version 0.54
ADSL Board Type Annex A

maybe it makes sense to you!!! lol

ps pinged google again and now average 126ms!!!!

crazy

[TIN CAN]

RIght oh mate, if you look at this link , your line attenuation down is 24..... on the graph this gives you around 15mb download sync so around 12mb actual download speed i should think, upload should be good too......

http://www.beforum.co.uk/forum/default.aspx?f=2&m=3875

[crazyadi]

thanks tin man

so with that in mind, am i right to be pissed that im only getting max 1mb on my 8mb package?

crazy

[Mobileman]

See my signature ...

You get what you pay for

[TIN CAN]

yeah 1mb is crap on your stats mate............................

[Mobileman]

yeah 1mb is crap on your stats mate............................

If i could get BE i would be on them, as im only 300 meteres from my exchange a steady 600 - 700 kbs is not bad ! any better ideas

[crazyadi]

my exchange does have be, well o2 which i believe is the same!
maybe it would be worth paying to get out of the contract im in so i can switch!
have tried get them to cancel but they are having non of it even though i maintain their service is not what they sold and after all its costing me 20quid a month!!!

crazy

[TomCrute]

I live 497 metres from my exchange and Be is enabled. Im on Virgin Cable at the mo, is it worth the messin to go back to a BT phone line and go with them?

[Lighty]

I'd stick with Virgin mate cable is OK if you can get it I cant unfortunatley

[Mr.James]

I live 497 metres from my exchange and Be is enabled. Im on Virgin Cable at the mo, is it worth the messin to go back to a BT phone line and go with them?

you should get full whack 24mb if you go with be according to what other people have posted. i live 0.9k from the exchange and be could only offer 3.5-4mb. i got 8mb with a different llu supplier...

[TIN CAN]

you should get full whack 24mb if you go with be according to what other people have posted. i live 0.9k from the exchange and be could only offer 3.5-4mb. i got 8mb with a different llu supplier...

Thye give guess looking at what they have on record at BT, thing is phone numbers move around and BT never update so 9 out of 10 times its wronf....without looking at your actual line stats they won't know..... they said to me max 3mb .....i am now with BE, thought i would take a chance..... i get 18mb+ lolol..... bit wrong eh!.


Best way is to get your current line stats from your router and then check them against the link i posted earlier on this thread.....

[TomCrute]

Well their site tells me i would get a constant 6.5 to 8 meg, i will see if i can remember how to interrogate my router, im a bit of a tard at times!

[Mr.James]

Best way is to get your current line stats from your router and then check them against the link i posted earlier on this thread.....

i've got 25 downstream... i'm on a 16mb circuit (allegedly) and only get 8mb though coz of distance (3km)...

[TIN CAN]

strange.......i always thought the attentuation was equal to line length.....i.e you could work out a rough length by getting the attentuation.... is this with router connected to master socket, does your line sync at 16mb+ if so you should get that speed...if your on BE i would try on their forums as there is some clever folk on there that have helped me

[Mr.James]

strange.......i always thought the attentuation was equal to line length.....i.e you could work out a rough length by getting the attentuation.... is this with router connected to master socket, does your line sync at 16mb+ if so you should get that speed...if your on BE i would try on their forums as there is some clever folk on there that have helped me

yeah i'm plugged in direct. it syncs at 8096/768 every time without fail. i'm with s*y broadband... i think that they've just stuck me on their adsl1 circuit so i've emailed tech support to request being changed onto adsl2... find out within 7 days hopefully (what a fuckin sham lol).

[TIN CAN]

sounds like your on sky mid broadband not the max one.....which is upto 16mb.......are you paying £10 for it too if so definately something wrong.....hope s*y get back to you soon.....they are a nightmare sometimes

[Mr.James]

yeah i got the bees knees service. work in IT so need it. i use loads of bandwidth coz i need to be able to use remote desktop (and download torrents) lol

[Mr.James]

well s*y finally closed my call 3 weeks after opening it... my line length is defo 3km and they've managed to bump it up to 8.8mb now... oh well. just have to wait for bt to pull their thum out their ass and install a proper fibre network instead of all this copper shite...

[wizard1974uk]

well s*y finally closed my call 3 weeks after opening it... my line length is defo 3km and they've managed to bump it up to 8.8mb now... oh well. just have to wait for bt to pull their thum out their ass and install a proper fibre network instead of all this copper shite...

I thought BT had scaled back their FTTH (Fibre To The Home) plans?