Cigarettes banned outside pub

[burner1]

A TOWN is set to become the first in the UK to ban smoking OUTSIDE pubs and cafes.
Landlords and owners will lose their £250-a-year licence for drinking on pavements if anyone lights up.

Under the new regulations, smoking will only be allowed outside in private beer gardens.

The hard-line new rules could be adopted by April in Barnsley, South Yorks. But the move has sparked uproar among licensees whose trade has already fallen under the ban on indoor smoking.

Publican Paul McNicholas, chairman of the town centre Pubwatch scheme, said: “I feel so strongly about this I’d be prepared to go to court.
“Having an outside area has compensated me since the smoking ban. The new guidelines could be the difference between bars surviving and not.”

The proposal, drawn up by the town’s environment department, says: “If on three separate occasions customers are witnessed smoking, the licence will be revoked.”
Environment committee head Roy Miller said consultations were still taking place. He said: “We are awaiting responses.”

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[liveseytowers]

Its good for non smokers because I get exposed to more smoke now than every before because the smokers who used to go in the smoking shelter at work now go to the bottom of the car park ramp and i have to walk past/through their smoke every day. Before they where well out of the way.

But I can see why pubs don't like it. My local used to be pretty busy at the weekend with the regulars but it was really smokey. You would stink of smoke when you got home but no big deal, just don't wear smart clothes to the pub. But now trade has really dropped and they are selling up because they hardly make enough money to cover expenses. Now there is a chance it could become a chinese restaurant

Id rather sit in the smoke to be honest.

[marcode]

jesus, do you need to cross the road now?

[liveseytowers]

jesus, do you need to cross the road now?

I can't cross the road to get to my car, only way to it is through it.

[marcode]

I can't cross the road to get to my car, only way to it is through it.

i was talking about smokers outside a pub you pillock.

its all you you you isnt it

[evilsatan]

i was talking about smokers outside a pub you pillock.

its all you you you isnt it

Well this won't make much difference, as Marcode said all you need to do is cross the road. The ban is going to cause mass mishaps come summer when the non smokers want to sit in the beer gardens, the same place where the smokers are forced to go and sit!

[Swiss Tony]

Socialist nanny state..... (unts

[Wizzo]

its a load of bollox.. how are they gonna police this? .. how does a landlord stop people smoking on the pavement?.. its nothing to do with him.. He can refuse to stop serving you but no one can stop you smoking outside... so as Marcode says, if your smoking and walking past the pub do you have to cross the road?... the pub buisness is on its arse to start with...tossers the lot of 'em.

[liveseytowers]

i was talking about smokers outside a pub you pillock.

its all you you you isnt it

lol my bad! See your point though i can imagine it being hard to police like others have said above. You've gota let people smoke somewhere. If everyone stopped smoking the non smokers will be the first to moan when taxes go up to compensate.

[tombott]

Didn't see this one coming

This is just fucking pathetic now.

Ok I agree people standing right outside a shop, or office entrance smoking can be bit off putting but give the landlords, drinkers and smokers a break FFS.

I'd rather the councils targeted people chucking empty cig packets of fag ends all over the pavement, or how about investing in bins with ash-trays in the top of them. They have loads of these in Birmingham city centre. Not to mention Singapore where smoking is banned in most office buildings, shops etc. You hardly ever see a fag end on the pavement or groups people standing in front of buildings smoking. Yet they have ash-trays in the tops of bins everywhere, so people can stand near a bin and smoke.

/Rant mode off...

[Over Carl]

I propose everyone affected stand directly outside their local council's office and smoke like chinneys. Hopefully fill the council building with smoke until they change their mind.

[cosmicma]

i can see them banning smoking in public altogether this is just part of the lead up to it

it seems nonsense if they don't want us to smoke why don't they just ban the sale of tobacco and have done with it

[schematic]

One busy local has already closed down, and another is surly going to be soon too.

The strange thing i found with this smoking ban is that most of the people who still go out are the smokers, its seems all the non smokers are the ones who dont bother going out anymore

I'm going to start a petition to ban alcahol, because i have had a gutsfull of the drunks walking home at all hours shouting and swearing, smashing shop windows, smashing up the phone box, leavining their discarded kebab on the pavement, puking on the pavement, fighting, filling A&E on saturday nights and abusing nurses...etc etc

Spoiler:

I'm not really, but i'm surprised someone hasn't tried already.

[garagekru]

i can see them banning smoking in public altogether this is just part of the lead up to it

it seems nonsense if they don't want us to smoke why don't they just ban the sale of tobacco and have done with it

duty is to good for them to pass up, theiving scum

[BBK]

LOL, now even I think this is crazy! Enclosed spaces yes, outside no! Madness.

[Nikki]

banned it in the pubs etc. outside i think it is not going to happen imo. unless smokers dont go out anymore !!

[Over Carl]

It was said this would happen when we had the big debate just before smoking was banned. My prediction is that non smokers will find any trace of tobacco odour intolerable, no matter where the smoker was while smoking. These non smokers will get together and whinge until every smoker has to carry a spare change of clothes, a minature washbasin with tiny water supply and shampoo to get rid of the smell from hair, pack of chewing gum, as well as a mini air filtration system just in case.

OK, this may not happen, but ffs non smokers have won the fight. No need to start rubbing salt in smoker's wounds.

[CominAtcha]

Give up smoking. It is killing you after all.

[DB]

Great idea, ban the cunt full stop, save us all a lung full.

[Over Carl]

All banning it would do is
1. Increase health problems- tobacco would become unregulated and sold on the streets by weight or volume. This would encourage naughty practises such as the addition of silica beads which bulk the item up whilst being terrible for health. This is what happened to most of the cannabis in the uk when the gov't went on a major crackdown the summer before last.

2. The government would loose out on major amounts of tobacco tax, meaning taxes have to rise significantly to increase the shortfall.

3. The missing money would be in the hands of criminals now. Some will just choose to be criminals with a more expensive shirt/car/house, others will invest this money back into crime, so this could theoretically provide the spark for a destrucive negative spiral.

I think I'm a realist when I say a complete ban in our lifetimes is just as likely as the legalisation of cannabis. Chance of both is fa.