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    Labour looks set to come third nationwide, BBC research suggests




    Labour is on course to suffer its worst performance in at least 40 years in the local elections in England and Wales.
    BBC research suggests the party has fallen into third place nationally with 24% of votes, with the Conservatives on 44% and Lib Dems on 25%.
    So far Labour has lost more than 160 seats with the Tories gaining 147.
    Conservative leader David Cameron called it a "big moment". Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman said the results were "very disappointing indeed".
    But Labour's chief whip Geoff Hoon insisted there was "no crisis" for Gordon Brown.
    'Exceptional results'
    The margin is similar to the drubbing received by Tory Prime Minister John Major in council elections in 1995, two years before he was ejected from Downing Street by Tony Blair.
    RESULTS ROUND-UP
    General turnout looks like it will be about 35%, similar to last year
    Projected national vote share: Tories 44%, Lib Dems 25%, Labour 24%
    Worst share of national vote for Labour in recent history
    Surprise Tory win in Southampton and solid progress in north
    Greens and BNP make little progress nationally, UKIP up 1



    Cameron hails 'big moment'
    London result on knife edge
    Labour loses in Welsh heartlands
    Elections latest at-a-glance


    Elections expert John Curtice, of Strathclyde University, said: "It looks quite possible that by the time all the results are declared some time on Friday afternoon, Labour will have suffered at least 200 net losses, widely regarded before polling day as the worst possible outcome that could befall the party."
    BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson said all sides believe Conservative candidate Boris Johnson will win the London mayoral election. Counting has just started and the results are not due until early evening.
    The fate of Mr Johnson, Labour incumbent Ken Livingstone and Lib Dem contender Brian Paddick, will be closely watched for signs of how popular their parties are nationally.
    In the local elections so far, the Tories have a net increase of more than 140 councillors and a 4% higher share of the national vote than at last year's local polls.
    Such a share in a general election would have the potential to give the party a Commons majority of 138.
    Shadow foreign secretary William Hague said: "These are exceptional results and this could be the lowest Labour share of the vote in the modern history of local elections. This is a big step forward."
    'Not greatest night'
    The Tories have gained control of several councils including Southampton, Bury, Harlow and Maidstone.
    BBC analysis suggests Labour's vote appears to have fallen most heavily in its traditional heartlands - confirming MPs' fears the 10p tax row has damaged their core support.
    Ministers were trying to put a brave face on the results and pledging to listen to voters' concerns.

    Labour's Geoff Hoon played down the losses


    Ms Harman told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the results had been "very disappointing indeed", but said the elections had taken place against a background of rising economic concerns.
    "We didn't respond early enough to those groups of people who were going to lose out as a result of the change in the 10p rate which overall benefits lower income people but there were some people who lost out and we didn't react early enough," she said.
    "We've got to be more focused on listening to people and more in touch.
    "There's nobody with more experience and commitment to take this economy through difficult times than Gordon Brown."
    Mr Hoon said: "There's no crisis. This isn't something that's going to affect the fundamental stability of the government.
    "We have to go on making the difficult decisions the country requires."
    Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg told BBC Breakfast: "We were 13% a few months ago, we're now 25%. We've over-taken Labour, we've taken seats off the Conservatives, we've taken seats off Labour... If you call that a disappointment then we inhabit different planets. I am actually delighted, we are regaining momentum."
    Deputy leader Vince Cable said: "The important thing is that we've beaten Labour into third place."
    London contest
    More than 4,000 seats on 159 councils were up for grabs in Thursday's elections, as well as the London mayoralty and assembly.
    All seats are up for election in the 22 Welsh unitary authorities.
    HAVE YOUR SAY
    I voted for the Conservatives and I'm glad they won my local election
    Matt, Bedworth
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    Meanwhile, a BBC opinion poll suggests Tory leader David Cameron is seen as more effective than Mr Brown or Mr Clegg.
    Of 1,005 people who took part in the poll, 68% said Mr Cameron was an asset to his party, compared with 43% for Mr Clegg and 42% for Mr Brown.
    Mr Brown's reputation for economic competence has also taken a blow.
    At this time last year 48% said that Labour could be trusted to run the country's economy, little different from the 53% who did so in 2002. But this year the figure has fallen to 32%. However, only 36% said they trust the Conservatives to run the economy - 10 points down on last year, and little better than the figure of 32% recorded for the party in 2002.

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    Yep its not looking good for Brown at all!!

    Could be the beginning of the end!?
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    Could be the beginning of the end!?

    I think that ship has sailed a while ago pal.

    Good fucking job, a change is long overdue, the nation is sorely disappointed with what Labour have done and this outcome clearly reflects the loss of faith in them.

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    Personally I think it's ridiculous that people use their votes in local elections to protest against the national government. Then again I also think it's ridiculous when people decide that they support a particular party and don't even bother to look at the policies of other parties.

    I hope everyone that voted as a protest vote doesn't then complain about the state of the services under control of their local council - I bet they do though.

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    Default Re: Labour suffers big council losses

    Doubt my council could get any worse or our bill any higher so it won't make fa difference as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mule View Post
    Personally I think it's ridiculous that people use their votes in local elections to protest against the national government. Then again I also think it's ridiculous when people decide that they support a particular party and don't even bother to look at the policies of other parties.

    I hope everyone that voted as a protest vote doesn't then complain about the state of the services under control of their local council - I bet they do though.
    I just heard this very sentiment on Radio 2 (not saying that's where you got it from). It's a fair comment but people are frustrated, angry and disappointed, it's seems that voting on any level is a way of registering these feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mule View Post
    Personally I think it's ridiculous that people use their votes in local elections to protest against the national government. Then again I also think it's ridiculous when people decide that they support a particular party and don't even bother to look at the policies of other parties.

    I hope everyone that voted as a protest vote doesn't then complain about the state of the services under control of their local council - I bet they do though.
    True, that's how HItler got on to the power ladder in '33 so is it out of the frying pan, and into the fire with the protest vote me wonders.
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    Here's hoping you Londoners get rid of that twat Ken and voted for Boris

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    Default Re: Labour suffers big council losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Mule View Post
    Personally I think it's ridiculous that people use their votes in local elections to protest against the national government. Then again I also think it's ridiculous when people decide that they support a particular party and don't even bother to look at the policies of other parties.

    I hope everyone that voted as a protest vote doesn't then complain about the state of the services under control of their local council - I bet they do though.
    None of the parties even bothered to post their policies through my door this year. Not one piece of literature. So if none try to get my vote then I will not vote simple. As you say there is no point voting simply for a party.

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    Default Re: Labour suffers big council losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Mule View Post
    Personally I think it's ridiculous that people use their votes in local elections to protest against the national government. Then again I also think it's ridiculous when people decide that they support a particular party and don't even bother to look at the policies of other parties.
    Hear hear! I have never understood how anyone can be a party member. I mean those people who supported Labour back in the 80's, surely they are "turning in their graves" now under the middle of the road? Well, they would be if they weren't mainly two-faced hypocrites of course

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    Here's hoping you Londoners get rid of that twat Ken and voted for Boris

    W.
    Are you serious? I can't even begin to understand how anyone could actually vote for that bumbling fool. Ken may have made some extreme and unpopoular decisions, but Boris is just a moron.

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    Yep its not looking good for Brown at all!!
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