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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by diablos View Post
    Have to say will enjoy watching this thread develop.

    good luck to all who take part, i had a decent enough six pack years ago when i was really into myself/look, but as ive got older i still work out but not to achieve the look i once had, more of just to look healthy.

    Funny reading this as my son currently trying to build himself up more as he got a lads holiday coming up so wants to look his best on the beach.
    He luckily always trained three times a week at football and already has a reasonable six pack, but as he's only going on 17 i didnt let him weight train as his body is/was still growing.
    At about 17 i think its fine to do weight training.. i read it in mens fitness. its a myth apparently ill try and find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by diablos View Post
    Have to say will enjoy watching this thread develop.

    good luck to all who take part, i had a decent enough six pack years ago when i was really into myself/look, but as ive got older i still work out but not to achieve the look i once had, more of just to look healthy.

    Funny reading this as my son currently trying to build himself up more as he got a lads holiday coming up so wants to look his best on the beach.
    He luckily always trained three times a week at football and already has a reasonable six pack, but as he's only going on 17 i didnt let him weight train as his body is/was still growing.
    Quote Originally Posted by ant3b View Post
    At about 17 i think its fine to do weight training.. i read it in mens fitness. its a myth apparently ill try and find it
    We were banned from using weights at our rugby club until we were 16, so there's probably some truth to it...

    I'm sure general light resistance work can do little harm, but heavy pumping might cause problems

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    i used to do press ups etc when i was young (doing judo and fencing) but didn't touch any weights til 16+
    might be an old myth, but there may be some truth in it

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by ant3b View Post
    At about 17 i think its fine to do weight training.. i read it in mens fitness. its a myth apparently ill try and find it

    Disagree totally, done weights for over twenty years and its just stupidity to do it when your body still growing and developing.

    My sons taller than me now and growing all the time he currently has osgood shlatters disease in his knee due to him growing so quick, you don't exercise on a body thats not properly formed, you shouldn't need a magazine to tell you that its common sense.

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    fair enough. each to there own

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    Quote Originally Posted by diablos View Post
    Disagree totally, done weights for over twenty years and its just stupidity to do it when your body still growing and developing.

    My sons taller than me now and growing all the time he currently has osgood shlatters disease in his knee due to him growing so quick, you don't exercise on a body thats not properly formed, you shouldn't need a magazine to tell you that its common sense.
    Terrible disease that, I had it in my youth, put me out of Rugby for about a year. Excruciating pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganty View Post
    Terrible disease that, I had it in my youth, put me out of Rugby for about a year. Excruciating pain.

    Yes. its really put him back in terms of how he was doing in football, will really be a struggle for him now to compete at the level he was at.

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    Cut the carbs out of your diet (bread, pasta, cereals like Weetabix etc)Substitute with porridge, rice and potatoes although have none of these after 6pm
    Why is the former bad and the latter good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushty View Post
    Why is the former bad and the latter good?
    It all comes down to unrefined/refined carbs mate.

    Examples of unrefined carbs would be whole grain wheat, wholemeal bread, potatoes, wholemeal pasta, brown rice, vegetables and many fruits such as bananas and apples.

    Refined carbs would be things which contain various refined ingredients such as white flour and white sugar etc. These would include foods such as white bread, white pasta, cakes, biscuits, white rice, crisps, french fries, pastries, cookies, donuts and most fast foods. Also many drinks contain high levels of sugar or syrup which are not good for you.

    The latter being, to many refined carbs is a no no.


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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    i presume some are the first lot are complex carbohydrates my fault

    edit spenny has just posted but with different wording the refined and unrefined
    edit again im getting mixed up... they are to different types of complex carbs
    Last edited by ant3b; 4th July 2008 at 03:53 PM. Reason: arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spennyboy View Post
    It all comes down to unrefined/refined carbs mate.

    Examples of unrefined carbs would be whole grain wheat, wholemeal bread, potatoes, wholemeal pasta, brown rice, vegetables and many fruits such as bananas and apples.

    Refined carbs would be things which contain various refined ingredients such as white flour and white sugar etc. These would include foods such as white bread, white pasta, cakes, biscuits, white rice, crisps, french fries, pastries, cookies, donuts and most fast foods. Also many drinks contain high levels of sugar or syrup which are not good for you.

    The latter being, to many refined carbs is a no no.

    So I should be ok with my normal breakfast of 2 shredded wheat?

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    You would be alot better of with porridge oats (ergo the whole 'not made from wheat made from oats instead-abix) , as from research cerals in general contain alot of sugar and other bits which make it not so good for the morning meal. Theres a whole thing on cereals you can read up on under 'glycemic index'

    Basically comes down to what it does to your body, in that case your get a blood sugar spike cos of the content.

    I get confused, as the adverts make it sound so healthy and good for the heart - then the research you do makes out like its going to kill you etc

    Would be nice to here Roach or someone else with better nurtrional expertise thoughts on it.

    I have porridge, fruit cocktial or shredded wheat for breakie, varies.

    If i know i got a good session planned in the gym, i may have Jam on toast in the morning, as i know i can cain it back off later.

    This whole nutriton thing is a minefield of information - with good and bad points everywhere.

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    I'll definitely have a crack at this as I want to shred a bit...currently just under 15st but due to me having plantar fascia ( bad heel pain) I cant run as I wish.. It hurts my heels within 100yards so running is out of the question... I'll probably take to cycling or swimming.. Also I used to do Thai boxing so bag work will help too ( its great for shredding your sides.. )

    Anyways boys, let the fun begin...

    The nutrition tips would be good..

    I have peanut butter on wholemeal toast in the morning with some fruit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spennyboy View Post
    That looks mental as well as bloody expensive!
    Not at all.

    The key is sourcing it from a decent supplier. I have found MyProtein ok (the only problems ive had have been with ParcelForce cunts delivering it)

    Whey Protein is 31 quid for 4.5kgs
    at a consumption rate of 90gms a day it lasts 50 days.
    Cost per day: £31/50 = £0.62
    http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-supp...red)-(refill)/

    Creatine Monohydrate £13.43 for 1kg
    at a consumption rate of 5g a day this will last 200 days.
    Cost per day: £13.43/200 = £0.07
    (in reality this is even cheaper than 7p a day as you cycle creatine, say 8 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off)
    http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...e-monohydrate/

    L-Glutamine £19.42 for 1kg
    at a consumption rate of 15g per day 1kg lasts over 66 days
    Cost per day: £19.42/66 = £0.29
    http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...s/l-glutamine/

    So the cost is extremely low, the essential supplements (imo above) cost £1.61 per day.

    What you will find is that the 'other' suppliers and high street suppliers are plain and simply ripping you off.

    Also check the content of your product, i was interested to find aspartame in a flavoured protein powder from a high street store (check out wikipedia if you dont know about what the concerns are over its use). The stuff i buy is all top quality.

    Hope this helps

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    when does this challenge start? is the magazine out?

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanj[UK] View Post
    when does this challenge start? is the magazine out?
    It starts when you want mate, but finishes at the end of October 2008. I'm not doing my regime from a magazing so can't tell you when it's out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roach-Rampino View Post
    It starts when you want mate, but finishes at the end of October 2008. I'm not doing my regime from a magazing so can't tell you when it's out.
    Im sure the magazine is cheaper then a gym ( i only have a set of dumbells)..ill be starting mine on tuesday..if the magazine is already out

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    i went and took a look at the magazine before i bought it..it doesnt really tell you what their exercises were

    /back to square one

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    My pre-challenge shots taken tonight:

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    Default Re: The DF 6-Pack Challenge

    i will be up for this, im going to Ibiza on wednesday next week and im back on the monday, tuesday will be my start date id imagine, ill post pictures sometime before wednesday


    great idea.

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