Appeal meeting??

**maffa_82** · 3rd November 2009

hey guys dont know if this is the right place to ask about this but here goes...

i was recently dismised from work for gross misconduct. i had a diciplinary meeting and was told i could take a representitive with me but couldnt get one. i am going to appeal the decision and really want to take a rep this time round but have no idea who i can take. im not in a union so have no idea who to ask.

any ideas?

**eggon** · 3rd November 2009

Have you spoken to the Citizens Advice Bureau? I am sure that they can help you find a rep.

Whats the gross misconduct charge? If you dont mind me asking.......

**maffa_82** · 3rd November 2009

im being charged with a serious dereliction of duty, "knowingly" taking part in fraudulent returns and the falsification of company documentation.

i told them from the start that i was only doing what my manager was telling me to do in regards to the returns and they tried to accuse my of doing this to get a bonus from the sales target wich i felt like they wer puting words in my mouth and using it against me. in regards to the documents it was the safe log. i filled it in correctly and because my manager took money out of the safe to pay for items she put through the tills, the safe was down so she told me to change the amount on the log and put in the ammount she told me to.

**Zizou** · 3rd November 2009

Sounds like you need a good lawyer, but an even better English teacher. Good luck.

**jaguar982** · 3rd November 2009

The guy is asking for help not to be slagged off because of his spelling

jag

**crazyadi** · 3rd November 2009

dont ACAS help with stuff like this?

**Zizou** · 3rd November 2009

Originally Posted by jaguar982

The guy is asking for help not to be slagged off because of his spelling

jag

I think it's all relative......

**liveseytowers** · 3rd November 2009

At our place you can take a work mate in with you so if you have someone else who has been told the same thing then i'd take them in?

**Nikki** · 3rd November 2009

as above aint you got a work mate that can go into it with you at all? when is the meeting?

**maffa_82** · 3rd November 2009

dont know when the meeting is yet, need right out my appeal and send it tomorro. going go the CAB tomorro see where i stand and get advice.

**Nikki** · 3rd November 2009

Originally Posted by maffa_82

dont know when the meeting is yet, need right out my appeal and send it tomorro. going go the CAB tomorro see where i stand and get advice.

any mates from work you can ask for the meeting or not?

**ZX7R** · 3rd November 2009

My old man went through a nasty gross misconduct charge recently, he appealed and managed to win a settlement (without going to a tribunal).
Like mentioned above, you need to get a lawyer or someone who knows employment law really well indeed - any friends or family that can help you?

Record down everything in any meetings you have and I mean everything. Record conversations on your mobile phone if possible so you can write a transcript afterwards - this will all help towards putting your appeal together if it comes to it.

And don't be worried if ACAS come back with advice that isn't so much positive for your side - they aren't always correct.

Whilst it's fresh in your head; record everything that has happened in a document/log.

Be prepared for a long fight.

Good luck.

**prezzy** · 3rd November 2009

If you are not in a Union they do not have to let you take any sort of a rep, colleague, friend or anyone else in if they don't want to. Think you will need to ask them if it is ok to take in someone else in writing,

**Eric** · 3rd November 2009

Originally Posted by prezzy

If you are not in a Union they do not have to let you take any sort of a rep, colleague, friend or anyone else in if they don't want to. Think you will need to ask them if it is ok to take in someone else in writing,

Surely that would also be discrimination against someone just because they are not union members. I also think you may be slightly incorrect.

Quote:
Workers have a statutory right to be accompanied by a fellow worker or trade union official where they are required or invited by their employer to attend certain disciplinary or grievance hearings.
They must make a reasonable request to their employer to be accompanied.

http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1774

**prezzy** · 3rd November 2009

Originally Posted by Eric

They must make a reasonable request to their employer to be accompanied.

Is why I said you had to put it in writing if you wanted to take anyone.

:edit: - sorry yes you need to ask if you want to take anyone other than a union rep or fellow employee - anyone other than those you have to ask and your employer and they don't have to let you although some will let you take family member or friend in