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    Guys and girls.
    I'm not absolutely certain this is a good idea, but I'm going to anyway.
    I suffer fairly regular bouts of severe depression, I seem to be just coming out of a bout which was particularly bad and I want to share it just incase it can help someone else. It is getting worse each time now, as I get older and has been happening since I was around 17-19. I'm now 42. On this occasion, like others, there is no real reason to get down. I have a son who puts a pulse in my veins and a girlfriend of 23 years (though it does seem odd to call her a girlfriend after these years) who truly is every beat of my heart. Trouble is that even with this I get so down that unless you experience it, you'd never really "get it". On two occasions this time I got very seriously close to the edge. So close that I was more than just scared because the feeling just envelops your whole self and you just can't stop it. I don't understand why that feeling stopped when it did and it's such a cliche to say it, but even in the most crowded room you are totally alone.
    It has occurred to me that I'm not the only person this happens to. If it sounds fanmiliar to you, or if you know someone who you think may get this way I'll tell you how it goes for me and if it helps then pleae bear it in mind.
    The first bit I notice is that I get upset at things like the news, anything bad I take personally and have a huge desire to put right even if I know damn well I can't. Then I get pissed off with anything at all, a bit more than irritable but not quite angry. After that the lonely feeling kicks in, I can be at home with the two most important people in my life next to me and participate in a chat or play games or even have a chat a laugh about allsorts but the second my mkind is free I'm suddenly down. Very, very down. The week or two from there really is a blur, I don't really notice things or think about anything as my mind seems too full of a feeling of total loss, almost as if I'm mourning my own death, and I know that doesn't make sense.The worst bit for me was walking around on my days off. Because they are often weekdays I'm pottering about alone with very few things going on in my head. When it's this bad I look at simple things in a totally different way. Whe you look at, say, a tree you see a tree right? I see something where I wonder what sort of person would find a body hanging from it. If you go over a motorway bridge it's just a bbridge, to me I have to wonder what the effect on somone dropping onto a car or wagon would have on the driver. I've even timed it to see whn I'd need to fall to get the best impact. All the time this is in my head, the fact that I am so lucky to have amazing people in my life doesn't occur to me, it's not that they're not relevant, it's almost as if my mind doesn't want a positive distraction.
    Then, and not until a few weeks of this have gone ( I think the really bad bits are usually around 5 or 6 weeks) I wake up one day, still down but not anywhere near as bad as it was and yet again, there's no reason for it. Slowly it gets better by the day. I'm now at a point where I make sure I tell Mrs wijit that I love her every day, many times. I have always told my son that every day because that is right. I know that makes me a hypocrite for not granting this amazing woman in my life the same courtesy, but that's just the unreasonableness of the situation. I think this time the difference is that I did get so very close to becoming a statistic that I'm making sure that the people who are important to me know it. I know it will come back, and I know it is going to get worse each time and, consequently I don't know what will happen then. I'll just have to try hard I guess.
    One thing I didn't do throughout the whole thing was to allow a proper conversation.
    If you feel something similar is happening, and I'm by no means an expert as we are all different, but if you do then please, please talk. Let someone talk to you about anything. If there is someone you love close by let them know you're getting down. Ask them to hold you and talk. If this reads like someone you know, then you do the talking. It doesn't have to be about the bad bits, ask questions. If they are a football head ask about certain players, or games. Just do something to occupy their mind.
    Now, I know how it is with us chaps. We don't talk, but we do! We talk football, politics...for fucks sake we are capable of running a football team better than fergie! We can manage the economy better than any politician and we're also experts at DIY,cars, beers, fashion and the need for plastic sugery in women! There are distractions available and one of them could just be the one to stop someone getting to that "tree moment".
    I think I've probably over-made the point I was aiming at. I hope you don't mind me posting this, I just got so scared this time that it was over, and coming out the other end I just feel that other people may be in the same position and yet, they don't have to be. I've not read through what I've written, because I always think these things just look like somneone wallwoing in self-pity even if the fact is different, so I'll apologise for any typo's or bad grammar. It goes without saying that if anyone doesn feel lost I am only at the end of a pm, or if you think I can offer any words at all which may help you or someone you know I'm only here. Please don't think bad of me for posting this, I genuinely don't want anyone to get to the point I was, and probably will be again.
    Apathy? can't be arsed.

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    Your not alone i guess we all feel it to different degrees mate

    british attitude is stiff upper lip but its not always the right frame of mind

    thank you for a very insightful post

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    Are you on meds or in therapy? Have you seen anyone in the healthcare arena about this. If you're getting to the stage of suicidal thoughts then you need to get help and your girlfriend needs to have some people she can call. I know the waiting time for psycotherapy is shocking but if you get that low, then you are referred to a crisis team and they can offer help immediately.

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    Hi Cassy. I don't go for any sort of medical help. I did many years ago, but the fact was that it didn't help even slightly, if anything I was worse off for it. I know it works for some people and good luck to them, but it's not for me and I don't use any medicines at all but I get by. I woke up this morning so lifes peachy!
    Apathy? can't be arsed.

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    I have to say that if you are feeling like this then you should see your GP who will refer you to a counsellor. I saw one when I was 21 and she helped me no end.

    Thanks for sharing though glad you're feeling better now

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    Quote Originally Posted by wijit View Post
    Hi Cassy. I don't go for any sort of medical help. I did many years ago, but the fact was that it didn't help even slightly, if anything I was worse off for it. I know it works for some people and good luck to them, but it's not for me and I don't use any medicines at all but I get by. I woke up this morning so lifes peachy!
    So, now is the time to do something positive about your health. Meds will amplify negative emotions for the first 6-8 weeks giving the impression that they are doing more harm than good. If you were to start them when feeling OK, they will have kicked in if the next bout strikes. I've been to the places you have been, but I got the help I needed and I haven't been back there since. You owe it to yourself, your girlfriend, but most especially your son to try again. If you were here with me, I'd be bitch slapping you all the way to the GP.

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    Thankyou for your honesty, It tkae a very big person to admit all the things you wrote. I have to admit the feeling you feel about bridges and trees are very common in my head too. I just thought it was me. I am suffereing from depression and have done most of my life. I never see an end to it tbh. Like you some days are better than others.
    I too have a wonderful life ie partner and kids and I feel blessed but sometimes I dont feel like I deserve it. Our heads work in mysterious ways.
    I am on a downer right now and reading your thread has touched a good nerve if you know what I mean.
    I am on pills and I am not 100% sure whether they work. I did change them last year and my god I was a mess. I could have killed someone, BBK soon dragged me bak to the Docs to change them back. This proved to me that the tablets do do something, what ever it is.
    I have just been refered to have cognitive theropy (sorry about the spelling). I will give it a try as I really dont want to be like this any more. The Doc said it works with some people and not others like most thigs I asume.
    Anyway I am pleased you brought it up it is a Taboo subject and I think it may help others to understand a little what a lonely place depression is.
    Hug from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by wijit View Post
    Hi Cassy. I don't go for any sort of medical help. I did many years ago, but the fact was that it didn't help even slightly, if anything I was worse off for it. I know it works for some people and good luck to them, but it's not for me and I don't use any medicines at all but I get by. I woke up this morning so lifes peachy!
    The ups and the downs are classic though m8. Everyone who has been depressed will encounter moments like this, what you need to do is learn how to manage the ups as well as the downs, though obviously the downs are more important.

    As KLL says above, look into cognitive therapy. It worked for me and enabled me to get off the pills. My depression was probably quite mild compared to yours, but it might help. What it helps you to do is recognise the early symptoms of when you are going into a low, and gives you mental techniques to avoid slipping any further. Many of them are really quite simple and straightforward and obvious once you know how, but you need to see them to see how straightforward they are. Like I said, this approach worked for me, and when I do feel low, generally it only lasts a day or less, and thats a lot more manageable. I haven't had a suicidal thought in years now.

    Seriously, the best thing you can do is get yourself to a doctors and have a chat. Doctors are far more aware of depression than in the past, and hopefully you will find one that wants to help you. Don't be scared to go back on the medication, it can seem like it is having no effect, I said exactly the same thing and came off them cold turkey, and it was only then I truly realised how they were helping me, so next time I came off them I did it slowly and with help.

    Good luck, and if you want to talk more privately, PM me and we can chat on MSN or even on the phone if it helps. Talking to a stranger can be easier.

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    I saw the doctor today regarding depression. He wasn't going to give me meds, I'm getting my blood tested on Thursday and I've been referred to a Mental Health worker . I just need to take things a lot easier, look up, find a new hobby, keep the hell away from drugs, stop thoughts of escapism/why the world pisses me off and generally stop being such a little emo bitch by attention seeking. I too have been feeling 'down' with no real reason or ambition to sort things out. I have also realised we have been looking for the next big distraction, that's how we all are! Its how we keep ourselves occupied!

    I'll tell you what happens soon.
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    There is of course the vicious circle that when you feel down, you don't want to get involved in anything, and the lack of achievement just makes you feel worse.

    A new hobby or whatever is a great idea, but I think the lack of motivation you get when down means that if it's something that someone else is involved with, that can prod you into getting on with it, then even better. In fact tbh, at the worst times, the only things I can bring myself to do are the ones where other people have expectations of me.

    I can't really comment too much as I don't suffer depression long term per se, I just have some rubbish circumstances to deal with that just get on top of me sometimes (same as most human beings I guess!). End effect can be pretty similar though.

    Good luck with the referral Omgporn.
    And, must have taken a hell of a lot of courage to start this threat in the first place Wijit, can't have been easy at all. Well done, tbh.
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    Hi m8 thanks for sharing somthing im sure is very personal to you in the hope it may help someone and im sure someone will read this and take positive steps to combat there depression.
    I can understand why you dont want to see a doctor as when i went through a bout of depression about 12 years ago (couldnt believe i was depressed thought i had a brain tumour) al they offered me were valium.
    At the time i was doing apretty good job of drugging myself up and the last thing i wanted was more pills.
    Thankfully it sounds like you have a loving and supportive family arround you which is important talk your feelings out with the mrs and anybody else you feel comfortable with a counsellor would be a good idea as you may feel more at ease talking to someone you dont know and keep yourself busy.
    And just remember youve been through it before and it always passes just keep on going.
    All the best m8 Happy Days!!
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    I't sounds like an Echo of my life m8 & even after years of HELP + Meds still the same crap
    they diagnosed me with Bi-Polar so now I know wtf is happening but still no light at the end YET
    all I can say is don't let the Bastards grind you down
    don't let the crap system win

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    Bi-polar is the new thing for manic depression. You will experience similar highs and lows as me, friend. Whe the lows kick in, try your damndest to look around at anything. Just take moments to appreciate things from family to wildlife. Honestly, when I'm getting down or even totaqlly down I watch Starlings and Sparrows. It helps me to prioritise. They go about life with no worries and yet they have more to worry about than us. They have loads of predators and a constant struggle to eat and breed.
    I know it sounds odd, but it might help you too.
    Take care.
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    I know how ya feel m8.. was quiet refreshing to read your post.. While serving overseas in Kosovo I was involved in an incident which left me with a serious injury and the loss of two close friends the resulting time in hospital and the loss of my buddies left me suffering with god awful shitty bout of depression... the biggest problem I found was time.. I just had to much of it to ponder on shit... and it really did make me worse.. In the end a very simple solution helped me no end... resolve the time issue.. When I recovered from my injuries a good m8 of mine dragged me out and bought me a guitar... and we both started playing.. went twice a week to a guitar workshop and learned to play.. it keeps me going when I'm bored or have fuck all to do... music really helps I swear by it. I just play the shit I love to hear. It helps to mend the soul.

    So I guess in summary.. try pick up a hobby with a friend ( helps with those days ya dont want to go) and get stuck into burning up your free time.
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