cheap turbo timer

[tbops]

I dont know if u put it on a 3200 GT in black and added the voice proximity pack aswellas the night rider alarm lights. u would have a pretty cool replica. BUT NO WAY would anyone get those wheels.

[Hybrid]

Battery back ups and immobilisers have brought car security on by leaps and bounds, but still the bare faced thief with no fear won't give 2 f*cks as he opens the car and opens the bonnet in a crowded car park and rips the alarm out as passers by assume its his car and he's having trouble with the alarm. Lets face it, how many times do any of us get up and look when we hear a car alarm go off?

[tbops]

Subarus have that lock that u can have fitted on the gearbox, it has to be torched from underneath, minimum time underneath the car is 30 mins. pretty decent i think.otherwise they cant select a gear. and its completely flush on the interior so u cant break the end off. as usual the scooby sport guy has it. lol

[Hybrid]

Yeah? sounds like a good plan. SAAB used to have the same sort of thing on thier cars too, except the ignition barrel was at the gearstick and locked the gearstick when you took the keys out, pretty effective it was to, but................for every anti theft device thats invented there are a thousand thiefs waiting to circumvent it, and usually they succeed, or hire a low loader and drag the victim car onto it so they can work on it at their leisure without interruption.

[forresthump1]

Firstly apologies for not posting my first thread in the intro section. Apart from this i find maybe my first statement that 99% of all jap cars have a turbo timer maybe a little to general_ secondly my evidence on this _ perhaps my participance in various performance car meetsetc . etc.before you hack me down I do not claim to be a qualified mechancic etc etc _ just what you might call a car enthusiast. You think that an IP check might answer this question? what question? I have read some of your previous posts and you are obviously someone who has been trained in mechanics in previous years - but who is unwilling to accept that times change and not able to live with this - twin weber 45s on a fiat pan might have been the bolox in your day but not today. I find it funny that someone who obviously knew their shit in their day cant accept things progress and are better than their times. _ I know and hope that I will be able to accept this 20 years from me - unlike you.

[cosmicma]

iv'e refrained from answering in this thread because i think the argument is pointless and yes an aftermarket turbo timer seems pointless to me i don't know if most of the guys with performance cars with turbo's have noticed but there's usually large fans ducted towards the turbo anyway for cooling the thing down and these stay on after the ignition is switched off untill a cool enough temp is reached
my advice is save yourself a few quid and don't bother use good oil and if youv'e been hammering your car for any length of time just drive round the block to give the turbo a chance to cool

maybe gingertosser want's to work out how to make one to make a bit of money building and fitting them for people i have no argument with that good luck to him it's just another GADGET for your car but about as usefull as the neon tubes you see on a lot of cars nowadays but people still buy em

[Hybrid]

My sentiments exactly! I'm trying NOT to let my bias against the boy racer fraternity affect my opinion, but............. I can't help it, old skool boy racers were bad enough, me included, but at least we deserved and worked hard for, and on the sh!t heaps we took so much pride (usually missplaced) in owning. From a mechanics point of view, boy racers were always a pain in the arse because you just knew that you were wasting your time fiuxing their cars cos they would, sure as f*ck undo all your work the very next weekend, then deny they drive their cars anything other than carefuly, which is a blatent lie, proven by the nature of the problems they cause, such as wheel bearings, clutches, drive shafts, steering racks, ball joints etc etc etc, which is fine and dandy if the mechanic is happy to sit back and take money from them every other week to do various jobs all related to the way the car is driven, but........some of us ain't just in it for the money and DON'T like to do the same job twice. That and the fact that these people are too blind to see they are being milked by an industry geared up to make them spend their money on all manner off mostly useless gimmicks, and all in the name of keeping up with the jones's. They try so hard to be different, but buy the same sh!t from the same magazines as the ones they are trying to outdo! with the effect that they become exactly the opposite of the person they set out to be.

[gingertosser]

the point of this post was to find a way of making a turbo timer fit into my astra diesel. i know there was no point in fitting a turbo timer to this shed of mine but it was a little project...i was only asking if someone knew how to wire up the relay into the ignition circuit..even though im a qualified fitter and have a few extra qualifications in electronics i still cant work the bloody thing out..even a bloke at work with a degree cant work it out properly...

not that anyone will be interested but ive dug out some circuits for the timer estimated costs are about a quid 50..a big bloody difference compared to 150 quid.

[tbops]

forrestthump i reckon that was tad out of line mate. Were talking about cars and gadgets here not taking cheapshots at people. Each person to there own mate. Some people like turbos some like superchargers and some like naturaly aspirated engines. u cant knock a man down for calling a gadget a gadget.

"I know and hope that I will be able to accept this 20 years from me - unlike you."- Not nice mate.

I think in the mainstream the only thing that has changed is saftey and control and engine refinment, especialy in the lower end of the car market. Engines were simpler a while back but that dont make them worse, i still got a 1970's astonmartin V8 that would eclipse most boy racers car top end over a ton and most of the times under it. i reckon an old ass AC cobra would eat alive most of the boy racer cars you can throw at it, so dont underestimate it cuz its old.( plus o TAX )

[gingertosser]

lol....ac cobra. wot a car.....the sound alone wins. even if the fuel bills dont.

ive got a nicely tuned escort mk2 engine in the garage but even though almost any 1600 car produced today would prob outpower it i still wont get rid...

[Jack-daniels]

I know of a guy with a 2.0 L Pinto in a MK1 Escort runs 13 sec 1/4's no NOS, no turbo & no blower !!!

JD

[Hybrid]

Yeah! of course you do! Tell him to change the 1100 gearbox for a 2000 one, THEN tell us how GREAT his car is! pinto's suk! 70's engineeering and p!ss poor at that! I can think of NO worse engine than a poxy PINTO! they are about as underpowered as underpowered can be! maybe 10 years ago in a MKI or MKII Escort they would have been ANYTHING other than SH!TE! BUT............today, they are just that! SH!TE! 80Mph FLAT out! and thats DOWNHILL with a tail wind BEHIND a bus. Sort yourself out and stop listening to the SH!TE your mates fill you with! Jeeeeeez! I listened to THAT kinda pish when I was 13 years old! This is the year 2002! THINK bout it!

[Jack-daniels]

Hybrid, Being a mod on here has gone to your head, you really do have an attitude problem. You should get some sort of help. You’re here to help people and give constructive advice not to slag off and put down anyone that happens to have a different opinion to yours (or of course doesn’t own a Porsche).

Its not so much what you say but the nasty & sarcastic way you say it. For gods sake lighten up & try to be a bit more pleasant, you give the impression that you think you’re better and know more than everyone else on here. Well you aren’t & you don’t, so please just try and be a bit more polite.

OK I’ve said my piece & I’m not going to get into some long drawn out slagging match.

JD

[Hybrid]

Don't flatter yourself. And.............DON'T presume to treat others by your own standards. Whats up? did you confuse opinion with fact? You can think of NO defence for the statement you made? You reckon a feeble attempt at slagging me off and judging me by YOUR insecurities will in some way prove your post was anything other than bull? The "Pinto" engine was doomed from the start, the stroke was too long for a start, but then you'll know that already, right? you'll know the effects that will have on its tuning limitations, right? Cos you know better and you don't dare assume ANYONE could teach you a damn thing, right? otherwise you wouldn't presume people think they know better than you. Mod or Newbie, turbo timers are gimmicks and Pinto engines are nothing short of a joke. I'll refrain from making any assumptions about you because I know as little about you as you do me, but.....maybe you should have that shoulder looked at? That chip must be annoying. BTW......I use my bicycle lots more than I use my Porsche, know why? cos there are WAY too many intellectually challenged people like you that assume I'm a pr!ck because I own that car and TBQH, I'd rather NOT let simple minds decide who I am thanx. Lets hear your defence for the second hand statement you posted please? Insulting me isn't really a way out, only an escape from having to back up your words. Your opinion of me won't do, lets hear your arguement for the defence of your statement instead of sidetracking with insults. YOU made a statement, I laughed, YOU show me how little I know about cars by convincing me I am wrong. I'm a MOD here because I know my subject, not because I'm whatever you assume a MOD should be. I get nothing and ask nothing in return for the hours I've spent typing reply's on this board, I've been here for 2 years doing all I can do to help anyone that asks for it, I reckon I can be excused for being the pr!ck you assume I am, now and then, huh? Its a sad reflection on you that you would consider you know someone enough to form an opinion of them by text alone.Definately a standards thing going on there, no?

[mrmagic22]

I have to admit i dont know a great deal about cars, i have been reading through this part of the forum to learn about the problems others are having and ideas others have, YOU say you are here to help and give your opinions, i have only been reading through this forum for about a week now and i have NOT read any "help" as u put it! Yes i do think you r a PR!CK but if u know ur stuff then share it with us, i thought this was for help not a slagging off!

[gingertosser]

if the pinto engine was so shit how come they used it to replace the cortina and carried on producing it to mondeo came out.....the engine in standard for was more powerful than all crossflows that were in mk2 escorts. according to a ford website theve been going for 25 years...i thought the mk1 and mk2 escort came with the crossflow engine except for the twin cam mexicos (please correct me)....many pintos are getting tuned up to around 150 bhp with just a few mods, its not as much as a porsche but better than alot of cars..

[Hybrid]

@mrmagic22 >" Hi all, first thing i found out about this forum through a mate of mine gingertosser in the df hub." Your first post, right? So basically your opinion of me is neither wanted nor accepted thanks, seeing as it's so obviously biased and your attempting to stick up for your buddy in a losing battle. Apart from that you have NO right to form any kind of oipinion about anyone on the basis of "one week" of posts, so......come back once you've done your research m8. When you can say you've given anyone on here even a fraction of the help I've given, maybe you'll be entitled to an opinion, right now your entitled to nothing seeing you have only 5 posts and NONE of them were in the least helpful to ANYONE on here, in fact you only seem to post either to ask for something or to show of what you have, so........do yourself a favour and be thankful I don't just ban you for moderator abuse, which is what the "PR!CK" you think I am WOULD do without a second thought. Next time you consider sticking up for your friend, make sure you arm yourself with facts first instead of jumping in mouth first. Thank you.

@gingertosser> The engine is still around in various guises because it costs MILLIONS to develope another one. It was never a good engine like I said. It WAS however a simplistic design which was easy to service and replace most of the parts, like camshafts etc, in fact IF they had put just a little more thought into it they could have made thae camshaft removeable without removing the cylinder head by allowing it to be drawn out from the front instead of the rear. They ARE shite though, even an RS2.1 would be hard pushed to catch a 1740 crossflow unless the gearing had been lowered subsantially, which WAS the favorite boy racer trick at the time. I think you'll find there are as many or indeed more crossflow engines being used by Ford in various models than Pinto engines. Bare in mind that when Ford launched that engine it was a world away from an engineering marvel when you consider it was competing against Fiat's Twin cam, Alfa's Twin cam and boxer engines, Audi at least had an engine with hydraulic tappets, unlike Ford etc etc etc , the list goes on and on only to prove that the Pinto engine was a world away from direct competition to anyone other than Ford themselves. The CVH engine was a far better beast than the Pinto engine, which is why it replaced the pinto engine in the Sierra for instance. Ford couldn't even develope a DOHC cylinder head for the Pinto and had someone do it for them. The sierra cosworth is living proof of the engines lack of tuning abilities when it had to be taken on by such a company to get the damn thing to perform, and that wasn't without MASSIVE changes to it which saw little of the original engine survive.

Now............... saving the best till last.............

@forresthump1> I nearly missed your post there, sorry! Not that I'd have missed anything anyway, huh? How dare you presume to know who or what I am? what I know? what fields I'm up in? or indeed how up to date my knowlege is! Your evidence for your pathetic opinion is ............what? quoting a post about Fiats engines and twin 40's\45's, whichever, that WAS part of a retro post? Jeeeeeez! how blind can one person be? What kind of person makes assumptions about ANYONE they don't know a damn thing about, on the basis of such poor evidence? I'm stunned by your ignorance, stunned! What do you want to talk about? huh? want to talk about CIS ignition systems? how wasted spark actually works? or........ ignition timing mapping? the advantages of vernier calipers? YOU tell ME what MODERN marvels you want to talk about! Put up or SHUT UP! I can see your life on here being VERY short lived if you continue to post such utter crap about someone you know NOTHING about, 2 posts and both of them were to insult ME ? You saved your first post to flame a moderator? should I make the same assumptions about YOU now? I sincerely hope you do better in future, though I have to say that on the evidence of your first 2 posts, if I was to accord you the same justice as YOU gave me, then I would be hard pushed to consider you anything other than an idiot with nothing better to do than troll boards and wait for something to bitch about before you have something to say, which IMHO is pretty pathetic really, so whatever opinion you have about me is hardly going to be relevant, is it?

So...............Does anyone else want to have a pop at me while we're here? Anyone that is NOT biased or attempting to insult me in defence of a buddy? Before I lock this pointless and useless thread forever? It always amazes me how quickly we jump onto the bandwaggon when someone is getting abused, but find it too much bother to post in someones defence.

[no-offence2]

ah ah ah calm down ther la calm down
ok turbo timer top gadget that WORKS
mine came wid car never a prob
but if ya want a cheep on search on ebay
wana link will prob only work 4 a week or 2 !!

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...ty=MetaEndSort

[gingertosser]

Hybrid> @mrmagic22 >" Hi all, first thing i found out about this forum through a mate of mine gingertosser in the df hub." Your first post, right? So basically your opinion of me is neither wanted nor accepted thanks, seeing as it's so obviously biased and your attempting to stick up for your buddy in a losing battle.

wot the f#ck has this got to do we owt. danny is my m8. i didnt tell him reply......

wots the loosing battle weve allready said that its a gadget. BUT MY ORIGINAL QUESTION STILL HASNT BEEN ANSERED "ANYONE KNOW HOW TO WIRE UP THE RELAY " apart from them quotes thats the only go at me youve had in your last post. nice one..

its nice to hear that my owd tuned crossflow might beat a more or less fully modded pinto....

[4me2]

right now this has gone far enough . Mods are here for a reason and they know thier stuff otherwise they wouldnt be mods here.
I wont have newbies coming in here questioning thier qualifications and if anyone feels the need to start to get abusive then let me spell it out for you .

fook off to Isonews or some other place where flaming is common practice.


Hybrid may at times comeover as a raw guy but believe if he can help you he will bend over backwards to do so.

@Gingertosser I dont think youre going to find a solution to your project and the general opinion seems to be its not really a worthwhile project.