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    Default The lottery has become a farce

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    The Lottery has become a farce

    David Mellor in the Evening Standard

    As one of the founding fathers of the National Lottery, I hardly dare
    open a newspaper these days. I'm bound to read something that makes my
    blood boil and then find the Lottery is funding it. Last month it was
    the revelation that almost £70m has been given to help so-called
    refugees, most of them bogus, with some of the benefiting groups
    little better than political fronts, and with the bare minimum of
    checks as to how the money is disbursed. Heaven knows where some of it
    actually ends up. Last week it was brave Simon Weston, severely
    wounded in the service of his country, pointing out that while all
    this money has been spent on people who have done nothing for our
    country, all veterans' organisations struggle to get any grants out of
    the Lottery.

    Then this weekend came the last straw; news that a daft old fanatic
    called Gerry German is getting £200,000 from the Lottery to roam the
    country stopping disruptive children getting their just deserts. You'd
    think that two pupils making more than 40 death threats to a teacher
    would guarantee expulsion. Not while Gerry German and the people from
    the National Lottery Community Fund are around, it doesn't.

    Gerry German thinks Osama bin Laden is worthy of sympathy and he
    claims to understand the "anger" that provoked the 11 September
    attacks. Don't the idiots who gave him the money read the stuff on
    German's website?


    No wonder Lottery sales are falling, down five per cent in the past
    few weeks alone. Inevitably the novelty has worn off as punters wise
    up to the fact they've almost as good a chance of being hit by a
    meteorite as winning a top prize. Nevertheless Dianne Thompson, the
    chief executive of Camelot, which has the dubious honour of raising
    the money for the National Lottery Community Fund to squander, is
    surely right when she says publicity about some of the ways the money
    is spent has helped undermine public confidence.

    The original idea of the National Lottery was that everyone who bought
    a ticket was a winner, because the money would go towards raising the
    quality of life of everyone in this country - not just those who had
    spent the previous night in the back of a cross-channel lorry.

    Cultural and sporting facilities in every community were to be
    improved, our national heritage better preserved, and the Millennium
    appropriately celebrated with a host of useful new buildings. It
    wasn't a bad prospectus; shame about the delivery.

    As Chief Secretary to the Treasury when the Lottery got the go-ahead,
    I knew full well that resources were needed to refresh the parts
    public expenditure could not reach. For instance, however much I
    wanted to help the arts or grassroots sport, it was difficult to
    prefer investing in a new theatre or running track to funding more
    life-saving treatments in the NHS.


    But there's more to life than hospitals. Besides, a healthy lifestyle
    helps keep people out of the hands of the doctors. So to me it made
    sense to give everyone a sporting chance, so we could back our
    world-class competitors from Cinderella sports with proper training
    grants, which indeed has made the last Olympics and Commonwealth Games
    such a success for Britain, whilst also providing recreational
    opportunities for youngsters who will never be world-beaters but might
    otherwise drift into delinquency.

    Believe me, there was a real job, properly spent, for Lottery money to
    do. And to some extent it has. Great opera houses and theatres have
    been refurbished, like Covent Garden, and much other useful work has
    been done.

    But sadly, much of this has been overshadowed by other things. It was
    never intended that charities should benefit. I thought it a nonsense
    to suggest, as the charities did, that people buying Lottery tickets
    would no longer put money into collecting tins, and a rain shadow for
    charity fund raising would be created. I thought that was to grossly
    underestimate the generosity of the British people. I also feared that
    such a concession would be a Trojan horse, opening the door to all
    manner of anti-social organisations getting money. And that
    predictable (and predicted) outcome has now happened.

    The National Council for Voluntary Organisations threatened to
    campaign against the Lottery unless they got their share. The Major
    government, infirm of purpose as it so often was, gave way. And the
    rest, as they say, is history. Sad history and a lot of it.

    The Community Fund has repeatedly dragged the Lottery's reputation
    through the mud by backing a range of pernicious causes. The
    Government has frequently raided the till for things that should be
    paid for out of public expenditure or not done at all. And a lot of
    money has been wasted on projects that never had a hope of success,
    like the wretched Dome. Who on earth would try to create a sort of
    Disneyland in Docklands and ask a lot of civil servants to run it? It
    was doomed from the start, and in all those ways a dream has died.

    Now even the Government seems to realise it's the Last Chance Saloon.
    This weekend they've been floating a lot of spin-doctor solutions,
    like asking everyone who buys a ticket to tick a box saying where the
    money should go. Hopelessly impractical, and likely to create yet
    another bureaucracy wading through all that paper. Which will
    presumably provide employment for the very people thrown out of the
    Community Fund when, as I hope soon, it is abolished.

    Time to recall a happy phrase, and get back to basics. The people who
    buy the tickets would love the money to go to Cancer Research, the
    Royal National Institute for the Blind or similar mainstream
    charities. They would be happy to support cultural provision and
    decent sporting facilities. There's no mystery about what people want.
    They want the money to go to causes that would be regarded as good by
    the overwhelming majority of sensible folk.

    That's common sense. But as so often that's a commodity on which Tony
    Blair and his ministers are having an each-way bet. They claim to be
    in touch with public opinion while behind their hands giving the nod
    to a lot of politically correct cronies to mis-apply the money.

    When the Lottery legislation went through Parliament, the then Labour
    opposition supported it. The original intentions of the Lottery to
    improve our quality of life were their ambitions as well, and it is to
    them they should return before it is too late. And if they don't, the
    National Lottery will soon be as doomed and discredited as the Dome.





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    that just about sums it up, good post.

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    Agreed.

    I was very pissed off when Richard Branson lost out on the Lottery deal. At least with him running it there was a decent chance of the money actually going to real causes.

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    this is nothing new:

    1)£980 million of lottery funds paid for the Dome was bad enough as it was

    but the recent £2 million grant to 'anti-deportation' i.e muslim group and the £2 million grant for another group, trying to reinstate expelled yobs to their schools is clearly unacceptable.

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    FYI - this is a blatent rip off from a post in another forum, so apologies to the person concerned, but I thought it deserved to be added to this discussion...

    Here's some examples of where your lottery money is and isn't going...

    APPROVED
    NATIONAL COALITION OF ANTI-DEPORTATION CAMPAIGNERS - £740,000
    To Block deportation of asylum seekers

    REFUGEE ARRIVALS PROJECTS, NORTH LONDON - £449,500
    To run a "befriending scheme" for asylum seekers

    ASYLUM WELCOME - £ 255,500
    Advising asylum seekers

    KENT COMMITTEE FOR THE WELFARE OF MIGRANTS - £45,000
    To run advice clinics and English classes

    STONEWALL - £1.5 MILLION
    The gay rights charity

    HELPPAGE INTERNATIONAL - £478,585
    To improve the status of old people in Central and South America

    CONSUMERS INTERNATIONAL - £395,000
    To improve consumers rights in Euopean countries

    RUNNYMEDE TRUST - £350,000
    Left wing think tank, whose controversial report into Braitain's natioanl identity condemed the word "BRITISH" as racist.

    ACTION ON DISABILITY AND DEVELOPMENT £262,216
    To promote disabled rights in West Africa

    FOREST PEOPLES PROJECT - £258,000
    To help Rwandans make a living from Pottery !!!!
    ( so thats why they closed Stoke-on-Trent pottery Industry down ? )

    INSITUTE FOR WAR AND PEACE REPORTING - £255,028
    To monitor human rights in Georgia,Armenia & Azerbaijan = ( Errr ??? )

    ACTION GROUP FOR IRISH YOUTH - £204,459
    To investigate the 'welfare of Irish Travellers in Britain'

    LONDON LESBIAN & GAY SWITCHBOARD £200,000
    To set up a countrywide network of gay helplines

    RHONDDA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION - £200,000
    To improve the lives of Bolivian miners

    BLUE CROSS ANIMAL CHARITY £180,421
    To expand a phone helpline for people mourning a pet
    ( Would have been better spent in the Phillipines, to stop the *******s EATING them )

    SCOTTISH pr0stituteS EDUCATION PROJECT - £81,553
    To fund an advice centre and services, including aromatherapy massages for vice girls

    YORKSHIRE MESMAC - £75,000
    To fund health services for male prositutes in Yorkshire

    GENDER TRUST - £33,700
    For transexuals & people that feel " uneasy about their sexuality"

    EXTERN ORGANISATION - £25,739
    To help families of prisoners in Bulgaria

    SOUTH ARMARGH FARMERS & RESIDENTS COMMITTEE £5,000
    A group that campaigns for the removal of troops from the South Armagh border



    REJECTED
    BATTLE OF BRITAIN HISTORICAL SOCIETY - £250,000
    Applied for a grant to build a memorial to those who fought in the battle of Britain

    ROYAL ALFRED SEAFARERS ASSOCIATION - £1.9MILLION
    Needed to help build a 56 bed residential home for the retired & disabled seafarers in Banstead Surrey

    ST DUNSTAN'S - £597,000
    Applied for grant to refurbish a residential centre for blind war veterans at Ovingdean, nera Brighton

    ROYAL BRITISH LEGION - £500,000
    Needed towards building a £3.5Million residential home in Southam, Warwickshire


    COMBAT STRESS - £400,000
    Only charity caring for memebrs of the armed services suffering psychiatric illness. Applied for grant to build a short-stay residentail treatment centre in Newport, Shropshire

    LEEDS WOUNDED WARROIORS WELFARE COMMITEE - £80,000
    Asked for the money to replace a 24 year old coach for transporting ex- servicemen

    WORLD WAR II VETERANS OF 44th BRIGADE - £15,000
    Wanted help to return to Holland for the 60th anniversary of their liberation of the city of Tilburg in 1944

    ROYAL STAR & GARTER ( No amount supplied )
    Charity which spends £5Million a year running the home for disabled ex-servicemen and women sought lottery help.

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    Always been a farce, butyou probally wouldnt say that if you won £9m :-)

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    Ain't gonna happen - NEVER bought a ticket

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    Originally posted by Panda
    FYI - this is a blatent rip off from a post in another forum, so apologies to the person concerned, but I thought it deserved to be added to this discussion...

    Here's some examples of where your lottery money is and isn't going...

    APPROVED
    NATIONAL COALITION OF ANTI-DEPORTATION CAMPAIGNERS - £740,000
    To Block deportation of asylum seekers

    REFUGEE ARRIVALS PROJECTS, NORTH LONDON - £449,500
    To run a "befriending scheme" for asylum seekers

    ASYLUM WELCOME - £ 255,500
    Advising asylum seekers

    KENT COMMITTEE FOR THE WELFARE OF MIGRANTS - £45,000
    To run advice clinics and English classes

    STONEWALL - £1.5 MILLION
    The gay rights charity

    HELPPAGE INTERNATIONAL - £478,585
    To improve the status of old people in Central and South America

    CONSUMERS INTERNATIONAL - £395,000
    To improve consumers rights in Euopean countries

    RUNNYMEDE TRUST - £350,000
    Left wing think tank, whose controversial report into Braitain's natioanl identity condemed the word "BRITISH" as racist.

    ACTION ON DISABILITY AND DEVELOPMENT £262,216
    To promote disabled rights in West Africa

    FOREST PEOPLES PROJECT - £258,000
    To help Rwandans make a living from Pottery !!!!
    ( so thats why they closed Stoke-on-Trent pottery Industry down ? )

    INSITUTE FOR WAR AND PEACE REPORTING - £255,028
    To monitor human rights in Georgia,Armenia & Azerbaijan = ( Errr ??? )

    ACTION GROUP FOR IRISH YOUTH - £204,459
    To investigate the 'welfare of Irish Travellers in Britain'

    LONDON LESBIAN & GAY SWITCHBOARD £200,000
    To set up a countrywide network of gay helplines

    RHONDDA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION - £200,000
    To improve the lives of Bolivian miners

    BLUE CROSS ANIMAL CHARITY £180,421
    To expand a phone helpline for people mourning a pet
    ( Would have been better spent in the Phillipines, to stop the *******s EATING them )

    SCOTTISH pr0stituteS EDUCATION PROJECT - £81,553
    To fund an advice centre and services, including aromatherapy massages for vice girls

    YORKSHIRE MESMAC - £75,000
    To fund health services for male prositutes in Yorkshire

    GENDER TRUST - £33,700
    For transexuals & people that feel " uneasy about their sexuality"

    EXTERN ORGANISATION - £25,739
    To help families of prisoners in Bulgaria

    SOUTH ARMARGH FARMERS & RESIDENTS COMMITTEE £5,000
    A group that campaigns for the removal of troops from the South Armagh border



    REJECTED
    BATTLE OF BRITAIN HISTORICAL SOCIETY - £250,000
    Applied for a grant to build a memorial to those who fought in the battle of Britain

    ROYAL ALFRED SEAFARERS ASSOCIATION - £1.9MILLION
    Needed to help build a 56 bed residential home for the retired & disabled seafarers in Banstead Surrey

    ST DUNSTAN'S - £597,000
    Applied for grant to refurbish a residential centre for blind war veterans at Ovingdean, nera Brighton

    ROYAL BRITISH LEGION - £500,000
    Needed towards building a £3.5Million residential home in Southam, Warwickshire


    COMBAT STRESS - £400,000
    Only charity caring for memebrs of the armed services suffering psychiatric illness. Applied for grant to build a short-stay residentail treatment centre in Newport, Shropshire

    LEEDS WOUNDED WARROIORS WELFARE COMMITEE - £80,000
    Asked for the money to replace a 24 year old coach for transporting ex- servicemen

    WORLD WAR II VETERANS OF 44th BRIGADE - £15,000
    Wanted help to return to Holland for the 60th anniversary of their liberation of the city of Tilburg in 1944

    ROYAL STAR & GARTER ( No amount supplied )
    Charity which spends £5Million a year running the home for disabled ex-servicemen and women sought lottery help.
    from the daily mail?

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    from the daily mail?
    Err ?!? No - as my post says, from another forum. Where the original poster got it - I don't know.

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    quote, The original idea of the National Lottery was that everyone who bought
    a ticket was a winner, because the money would go towards raising the
    quality of life of everyone in this country - not just those who had
    spent the previous night in the back of a cross-channel lorry.


    lost the plot somewhere????

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