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    What they say, do or is written is another thing, seeing is believing and I'll wait for the first balls up.

    Wait its happened allready................

    They have already ditched the....
    Home information packs scrapped

    Hips labelled 'expensive and unnecessary' as the coalition government seeks a permanent abolition.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010...-scrapped-hips

    Al those people that paid for courses to do these packs and now out of a job.

    the announcement will mean that thousands of people who trained as home inspectors and rely on the packs for their income could lose their jobs. There are between 3,000 and 10,000 people whose livelihoods depend on Hips, according to the Association of Home Information Pack Providers.
    I’m alive and kicking yeh baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realist View Post
    What they say, do or is written is another thing, seeing is believing and I'll wait for the first balls up.

    Wait its happened allready................

    They have already ditched the....
    Home information packs scrapped

    Hips labelled 'expensive and unnecessary' as the coalition government seeks a permanent abolition.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010...-scrapped-hips

    Al those people that paid for courses to do these packs and now out of a job.

    the announcement will mean that thousands of people who trained as home inspectors and rely on the packs for their income could lose their jobs. There are between 3,000 and 10,000 people whose livelihoods depend on Hips, according to the Association of Home Information Pack Providers.
    What about the 62 million other people who will potentially have to buy one at some point in their lives? They have all benefited.

    3 thousand people losing their job is never a good thing, but the conservatives claim they always said they would get rid of the home packs and warned people not to train in them, so I think they should have seen it coming from the first credible opinion polls revealing the conservative government and have had months to plan for it. Also, their qualifications and credentials can be applied to the production of other certificates for energy efficiency.

    The absence of home reports is likely to lead to more people commissioning reports on homes they are planning to buy to ensure they are safe too, similar to performing an HPI check on a car. Anybody who has a business doing HIPS certificates can try to get into that market.
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    i agree with a lot of what they are planning but did anyone see the instant ban for any NEW legal high?

    they need to make sentences more serious, take away tv's and consoles from cells and kick all the illegal immigrants out, the ones who have been denied leave to stay.

    we need to get confidence back in our ploice forces, i know 2 or 3 areas in leeds where my m8 lives and the police dont drive down there, and its only a couple of miles from a main police station. all the houses have bars on the windows and doors, the ones that dont sell drugs lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realist View Post
    What they say, do or is written is another thing, seeing is believing and I'll wait for the first balls up.

    Wait its happened allready................

    They have already ditched the....
    Home information packs scrapped

    Hips labelled 'expensive and unnecessary' as the coalition government seeks a permanent abolition.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010...-scrapped-hips

    Al those people that paid for courses to do these packs and now out of a job.

    the announcement will mean that thousands of people who trained as home inspectors and rely on the packs for their income could lose their jobs. There are between 3,000 and 10,000 people whose livelihoods depend on Hips, according to the Association of Home Information Pack Providers.
    sorry m8 but your rants are baseless and meaningless. In fact i will go so far as to say that you are absolutley full of shit.

    get your head out of labours ass for a second, take those rose tinted lenses off and get a fucking clue will you.

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    Ill hold the handbags.
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    Actually, if you do take the time to read it, there are lots of interesting ideas there.

    It remains though to be seen how much can actually be passed into laws.

    If they were to pass them all,then they'd be be bloody busy to get them all through.

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    We will review alcohol taxation and pricing
    to ensure it tackles binge drinking without
    unfairly penalising responsible drinkers, pubs
    and important local industries.
    I'd like to see how they go about this.


    We will review the operation of the
    Extradition Act – and the US/UK extradition
    treaty – to make sure it is even-handed.
    get's my thumbs up.

    We will introduce measures to ensure the
    rapid roll-out of superfast broadband across
    the country. We will ensure that BT and other
    infrastructure providers allow the use of their
    assets to deliver such broadband, and we
    will seek to introduce superfast broadband
    in remote areas at the same time as in more
    populated areas. If necessary, we will consider
    using the part of the TV licence fee that is
    supporting the digital switchover to fund
    broadband in areas that the market alone will
    not reach.
    also good.

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    • We will cancel the third runway at Heathrow.
    • We will refuse permission for additional
    runways at Gatwick and Stansted.
    This one sounds very ropey though.

    There is a need for further airport expansion in the London region.
    Maybe Manston can be expanded ?

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    We will stop the deportation of asylum
    seekers who have had to leave particular
    countries because their sexual orientation or
    gender identification puts them at proven risk
    of imprisonment, torture or execut1on.
    Well Det I wouldn't be holding your breath for sending any home.

    Now they will all claim to be gays from Muslim countries.

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    We will establish a commission to consider
    the ‘West Lothian question’.
    too right.

    • We are committed to fair pricing for rail
    travel.
    • We will work towards the introduction of
    a new system of HGV road user charging to
    ensure a fairer arrangement for UK hauliers.
    • We will stop central government funding for
    new fixed speed cameras and switch to more
    effective ways of making our roads safer,
    including authorising ‘drugalyser’ technology.
    • We will tackle rogue private sector wheel
    clampers.
    also good.


    Well, I've taken the time to read the lot now, and to be honest there is not a lot that worries me.
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    Default Re: The Complete Con-Lib Coalition Document

    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2 View Post
    too right.

    also good.


    Well, I've taken the time to read the lot now, and to be honest there is not a lot that worries me.

    I concur having actually read it - I just wish more people would take time to read the official documents instead of taking their view blindly from the papers.

    oE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2 View Post
    This one sounds very ropey though.

    There is a need for further airport expansion in the London region.
    Maybe Manston can be expanded ?
    Thing is, they keep saying heathrow need to expand to keep it's place as number one. Well what would happen if it became world number 2? At the end of the day, if you live anywhere near the airport you already suffer all day long with noise and pollution - no one ever asked us if we don't mind loads more planes going over head.

    In fact I remember getting a leaflet from our local mp telling us that we all wanted the new runway - rather than asking us what we want, he was telling us

    It's also not the cleverest idea having such a major airport near such a highly densely populated area - think back to the paris concorde crash... I'm sure I remember reading something about the m25 or some other major road that shouldn't be as close to heathrow as it is for safety reasons, but as heathrow generates loads of money, who gives a toss about safety. Pretty sure I've read the third runway would be breaking all sorts of enviornmental laws, but as usual who give a toss about the envioronment when there's money to be made, it's only mugs like us who actually end up footing the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    It's also not the cleverest idea having such a major airport near such a highly densely populated area - think back to the paris concorde crash... I'm sure I remember reading something about the m25 or some other major road that shouldn't be as close to heathrow as it is for safety reasons, but as heathrow generates loads of money, who gives a toss about safety. Pretty sure I've read the third runway would be breaking all sorts of enviornmental laws, but as usual who give a toss about the envioronment when there's money to be made, it's only mugs like us who actually end up footing the bill.
    I'm surprised that there hasnt been an attempt to shoot a plane down tbh. They fly so fucking low in Colnbrook

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    I'm sure the planes were there before you, so stop fucking whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super mike View Post
    I'm sure the planes were there before you, so stop fucking whining.
    An entire town has formed around my local airport. Every single house built after the airport, and despite that they successfully managed to get all night flights at the airport stopped to avoid waking them up.

    It's outrageous how these airport living people can control things that were there before they were.

    I do think people who live near an airport of a fixed size have a right to be involved in the planning process for expansions though. People could be happy to live near a small airport and be upset about expansions. I think Heathrow has planes taking off almost constantly though so I don't see how adding more runways would make the noise worse from a reasonable distance.

    Once this high speed railway thing is working it could be less of an issue, you could built the airport in the countryside near the railway and have a station at the airport to take people into London or Birmingham really quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoPlAnKs View Post
    I think Heathrow has planes taking off almost constantly though so I don't see how adding more runways would make the noise worse from a reasonable distance.
    During the summer, there will be times when we get planes overhead every 3 minutes. For some of these you won't even be able to hear someone stood next to you for about 10-15 seconds. I live about 4-5 miles away so people get it worse than us. Might not be much to you but trust me, I reckon it could be worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    During the summer, there will be times when we get planes overhead every 3 minutes. For some of these you won't even be able to hear someone stood next to you for about 10-15 seconds. I live about 4-5 miles away so people get it worse than us. Might not be much to you but trust me, I reckon it could be worse.
    Ah ok, I didn't realise it was so acute. I thought it was more of a general rumbling in the background like living near a motorway, except louder obviously and that adding more planes wouldn't really affect it but if it's like that a third runway would make the incidents a lot more regular.

    It's hard to think where to build an airport though, looking at a map of the South of England there isn't anywhere that's big and empty enough to put it without disturbing somebody.
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    Default Re: The Complete Con-Lib Coalition Document

    Why does London even need another airport? Surely if we expanded Birmingham or Manchester (as examples), we would reduce the traffic into London, especially during the summer months, as people in the rest of the country wouldn't necessarily have to fly to London just to get out of the country? I really don't see the big deal about having the no.1 airport in the world, or indeed the "worlds favourite airline", neither are really THAT important.

    Liking the coaltion document so far though, keep it going lads. Grown up politics at last.

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