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    Default Raindrop Refraction.

    The principle is easy, the execut1on isn't overly difficul, but finding the right darn droplet and THEN adjusting the surrounding grass to set up your shot is a nightmare!. One mistake and your perfect droplet is gone.

    Anyway, this one isn't a perfect droplet but after a number of attempts to find one, I settled for the best I could get.


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    Default Re: Raindrop Refraction.

    Great attempt Ian, let down only by the burnt-out part of the petals in the refraction.

    Damned awkward to set up, we know that, but we keep going for it ,8, don't we?


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    Indeed mate, we do

    Cheers..

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    Default Re: Raindrop Refraction.

    seems to be a lot of room around it for me for the size of the subject, can imagine how hard those shots are to set up

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterc4 View Post
    seems to be a lot of room around it for me for the size of the subject, can imagine how hard those shots are to set up

    LOL, Pete this is a crop of the original mate. Unless I get an MPE-65 lens (£900) OR, put all 3 Kenkos on and focus stack about 30 images (Which given that the wind was blowing, would have been impossible to set up) then you're lucky you got the droplet at this size.

    You are right though, it's not easy to set this kind of shot up. You have to find an appropriate droplet and then you have to clear grass around it without disturbing the droplet. Then you have to place your flower just in the right spot .

    That said, I feel I have cropped it to an appropriate size as it gives you the detail of the flower IN the droplet and also you can clearly see the flower definition behind it. Crop it too tight and we start degrading the image.

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    LOL, Pete this is a crop of the original mate. Unless I get an MPE-65 lens (£900) OR, put all 3 Kenkos on and focus stack about 30 images (Which given that the wind was blowing, would have been impossible to set up) then you're lucky you got the droplet at this size.
    i can fully apreciate everything you say there, difficult shot, still to much room around it for the size of the subject though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterc4 View Post
    i can fully apreciate everything you say there, difficult shot, still to much room around it for the size of the subject though...

    LOL, aye, I'm sure we can agree to disagree though .... one day, I'll get myself an MPE-65 and when that happens... Watch this space - No pun intended. Although an MPE is NOT an easy lens to use I believe.

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    That is a fantastic shot!! And for me having the flower in the background I think it's all the better for it!!


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    Default Re: Raindrop Refraction.

    here you go mate £18 for 3 days, gotta be worth it

    http://www.lenspimp.com/category/Mac...?#price-select

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    Very very tempted Pete but I'd worry about the £800 deposit. I know they have to request this in the event the lens is stolen or damaged. I'll have a very close read of all their terms and conditions. Does anybody have any experience of these guys?

    I must admit the thought of getting my mits on an MPE-65 is very appealing (plus I know if I did hire one a trip to Preston might be in order lol)




    EDIT: Lenses for Hire seems to be the more desired choice over at TP and they don't ask for deposits (although they do hold your credit card details for the duration of the hire). Lenspimp has received some good reviews but equally has a few that aren't bad but do question them.
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    LOL Ian, what a thought!

    800 sods is a lot though...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo_baggin View Post
    LOL Ian, what a thought!

    800 sods is a lot though...


    Paul.

    Hehe, indeed... that said, LFH will hire it out for a week for £48 with no deposit. Their reasoning, "We trust you with our kit" and apparantly they're well respected. The owner is a TP member.

    Hell if I do hire one at some point mate, we'll arrange something

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    OK m8.

    I've no funds as you know (due to the PC problems & Windows 7 upgrade) and already overdrawn at the bank and it's a week until next payday and the moosus STILL says she needs to go to the bank next week, so dosh is seriously compromised this time of year.


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    Nah, if I was to hire it mate, I wouldn't be expecting anything from you at all, I was suggesting that if I did I head up to Preston and we give it a whirl... though it'll be at a later date for myself anyway as I have two new front tyres to buy and at a cost of £360 fitted for the two - OUCH.

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    OK fella. Maybe one day then

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    i have used camera rent twice no deposit in any way shape or form five pound on top of hire for insurance, i took the 5 pond insurance, excellent service, they send it and pick it up, there site was dog slow this morning just been on now it is ok so heres the link, i will be using them again in 2 weeks aswell highly recomended...

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    Impressive pic. Another one of the shots on this forum that's made me think "I'd love to try that out".
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    Default Re: Raindrop Refraction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miraine View Post
    Impressive pic. Another one of the shots on this forum that's made me think "I'd love to try that out".
    Thank you.

    Go for it

    As I said, the principle isn't difficult. Find a nice droplet of water, the more spherical it is, the better. I just couldn't find one that day. Well, not strictly true, I did find a couple but in the process of moving other blades of grass, distrubed them and they rolled off .

    So, once you've found your droplet of water, place a flower behind it. You don't need to use a camera lens to see if it's positioned right as you can see it with the naked eye. However, I'd recommend using a small magnifiying glass to position it in a good position that is composed well and sharp. A magnifying glass is much lighter than the camera (I didn't have one but will be getting one).

    Then, set your camera up on a tripod (I shot this one hand held), adjust the camera so it's in position, focus your shot and take it.

    A macro lens of course is the best lens to use but if you don't have one, your kit lens in macro mode or manual mode with extension tubes. Basically, the goal.. to magnify the true image to as large as you can get it with as much of it in focus as possible.

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