Close

Results 1 to 14 of 14
  1. #1
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Hi folks, just got a couple of really basic PS3 questions for you before I pick one up - I've had a quick look on Google but am getting conflicting responses so thought I'd ask you lot:

    1) HDD size - do both the fat and the slim PS3's only take a 2.5" disk which is up to 9.5mm high? Just wondered as see there are larger than 640GB capacities available such as the 1TB / 750GB WD Caviar Blue but it's slightly higher at 12.5mm?

    2) Filesystem - what do they actually use? I'm seeing loads of people saying it uses FAT32 but then other references to SPUFS? I'm guessing it's got to be SPUFS (or whatever the real name is) if it's supporting larger than 4GB files?

    Actually just thought of a third

    3) Do they use standard SATA connections inside or do the disks sit in a caddy with a proprietary interface? If so I'm guessing you could use a SATA extension cable and plug in a 1TB drive to that externally?

    Thanks in advance

  2. #2
    DF Jedi jamie_h88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    A, A
    Posts
    1,200
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked:        11
    Karma Level
    241

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    the fat and the slim both take the same drives size sata drives. and they both sis in a caddy. their are larger then 640Gb available but that is the recommended maximum size. the drive also needs to run at 7200rpm for best results. I'm not to sure on file format

  3. #3
    DF Jedi chesser's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Yorkshire
    Posts
    3,095
    Thanks
    987
    Thanked:        379
    Karma Level
    454

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    I've always used FAT32 with no problem

  4. #4
    DF PwNagE prezzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Lancashire
    Posts
    8,149
    Thanks
    737
    Thanked:        990
    Karma Level
    1358

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_h88 View Post
    the drive also needs to run at 7200rpm for best results
    There have been problems with some 7200rpm drives overheating - best to stick to 5400
    Last edited by prezzy; 2nd September 2010 at 12:05 PM.


  5. #5
    DF VIP Member EvilBoB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    6,341
    Thanks
    583
    Thanked:        618
    Karma Level
    593

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Quote Originally Posted by prezzy View Post
    There have been problems with some 7200rpm drives overheating - best to stick to 5400
    Yup - to be honest the difference in speed will be negligable for consoles. If you were putting the hard drive in a PC then it would be different but consoles don't have to read hundreds of small files generally.

    Stick with a 5400. Cheaper, less likely to break and will not get as hot.
    DF Moderator
    XBox One | Panasonic 4k | MS Surface Pro 3 | 3DSXL | WiiU | RPi3
    XBL : TheSumOfAllEvil

  6. #6
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Thanks guys, I think a trip a Morrisons is in order now to go and pick one up

  7. #7
    DF Super Moderator
    DejaVu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Suffolk
    Posts
    9,132
    Thanks
    1,860
    Thanked:        4,065
    Karma Level
    990

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    The SPU file system was only used on the PS3 when mounting the no longer available Linux OS.

    The Hard Drives ARE formatted to FAT32 by the unit itself.


  8. #8
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    OK I've just been and got one, not a single Morrison's around here had any at £200 left which was a shame, but did manage to pick up a 250GB with Modnation Racers or something for £240 which will do for now - time to take a look at it!

    Didn't want to wait for the new one to come out just in case it's had the vulnerability used fixed out of the box.
    Last edited by reverend; 2nd September 2010 at 03:49 PM.

  9. #9
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    OK I'm still confused around the filesystem of the internal drives - the reports are saying that when using the internal drive in a PS3 you can store files larger than 4GB - which means it's not standard FAT32?

    I'm going to pick up a SATA caddy so I can check it out tomorrow but it will be interesting to see how exactly this is working when I've given the backup manager a go

    Reason I'm asking all of this is because I'm just wondering whether to stick with the standard 250GB drive, and then if it's easily readable from a PC or Mac I can then archive stuff off onto a much larger NTFS / HFS+ / EXT3 drive from where I can transfer it back if I ever want to use it

  10. #10
    DF VIP Member EvilBoB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Bedfordshire
    Posts
    6,341
    Thanks
    583
    Thanked:        618
    Karma Level
    593

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Quote Originally Posted by reverend View Post
    OK I'm still confused around the filesystem of the internal drives - the reports are saying that when using the internal drive in a PS3 you can store files larger than 4GB - which means it's not standard FAT32?

    I'm going to pick up a SATA caddy so I can check it out tomorrow but it will be interesting to see how exactly this is working when I've given the backup manager a go
    No need to be confused here. Internal drive is Sony's own proprietry format. External drives must be FAT32.
    DF Moderator
    XBox One | Panasonic 4k | MS Surface Pro 3 | 3DSXL | WiiU | RPi3
    XBL : TheSumOfAllEvil

  11. #11
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Ah mega thanks fella, that's what I was after

    So in the interim is there a file manager to get the larger than 4GB files off the internal drive?

    Or do you think that as we can now run unsigned code it'll be like the old XBox days where something running a basic FTP server will allow us to pull data off the internal disk?

    Have to admit I never bothered hack1ng my 360 but this has got my attention now

  12. #12
    DF Jedi flik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    ToyTown
    Posts
    2,055
    Thanks
    236
    Thanked:        142
    Karma Level
    345

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Quote Originally Posted by reverend View Post
    OK I'm still confused around the filesystem of the internal drives - the reports are saying that when using the internal drive in a PS3 you can store files larger than 4GB - which means it's not standard FAT32?

    I'm going to pick up a SATA caddy so I can check it out tomorrow but it will be interesting to see how exactly this is working when I've given the backup manager a go

    Reason I'm asking all of this is because I'm just wondering whether to stick with the standard 250GB drive, and then if it's easily readable from a PC or Mac I can then archive stuff off onto a much larger NTFS / HFS+ / EXT3 drive from where I can transfer it back if I ever want to use it

    Your PC will not recognise the file format and want to format it. You don't need to archive it in it's present state as it is stock. If you put a larger drive in then the PS3 will format it to stock settings like you have now. If you d'load any PSN games they can be re d'loaded anytime you like on any PS3 as long as you use your PSN sign in.
    Any Game saves can be transferred to a USB drive to transfer to another drive.

  13. #13
    DF Jedi reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    On the couch
    Posts
    2,632
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    388

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Ah sorry fella I might not have explained myself - I was thinking say I've backed up original disks with files larger than 4GB onto the internal disk with the proprietary Sony filesystem, would I be able to copy those onto other storage instead of having to rerip everytime I used them

    Maybe something will come along for something like Fuse that can make life a bit easier - I'll have to unbox this lot and have a play around to get familar with it as to date I've never seen a PS3 at all!

  14. #14
    DF Jedi flik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    ToyTown
    Posts
    2,055
    Thanks
    236
    Thanked:        142
    Karma Level
    345

    Default Re: Couple of really basic PS3 questions

    Quote Originally Posted by reverend View Post
    Ah sorry fella I might not have explained myself - I was thinking say I've backed up original disks with files larger than 4GB onto the internal disk with the proprietary Sony filesystem, would I be able to copy those onto other storage instead of having to rerip everytime I used them
    Only time will tell but I would say that it is very highly likely !

Similar Threads

  1. Couple of questions
    By dalboy in forum Microsoft Consoles
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 6th June 2006, 06:12 PM
  2. Basic questions!! Please!!
    By gooner71 in forum Hall Of Shame
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 18th March 2005, 11:28 PM
  3. couple of questions
    By andymids in forum Digital & Cable TV
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 9th January 2004, 07:51 AM
  4. Basic Questions
    By gaw121 in forum Sony Consoles
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 28th November 2003, 08:25 AM

Social Networking Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •