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    Xbox 360 Using an Xbox Live profile on a Jtagged Xbox 360 and staying safe...

    Found this in google while browsing and thought some of the other jtag users might be interested in the findings.

    Taken from [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    When looking in to the whole Xbox 360 Jtagging business I soon realised people could not agree if it was safe or not to use a profile that would sign in to Xbox Live on another console on a 360 that had been Jtag hacked. Some people would simply say to be safe just keep it in your live console, others said it was fine and any entries from homebrew would be removed when you signed in to live, then just for more confusion other people would say they got profile banned for having entries for emulators on their profile… which to be honest I would expect nothing less.

    I think its common sense, if you sign on to live with achievements such as “Welcome to the world of homebrew” from a Snes emulator on your profile Microsoft are going to know something is up…

    However what if you just want to play region locked games that will never be released where you live? and have the achievements you earn on your profile to compare to your buddy’s when you are next on Xbox Live?

    As they are many different ways to boot games on a Jtagged Xbox 360 I did some testing.

    Additional information:

    The Jtagged system used in the tests is a Jasper 512 running Freeboot 0.032 (9199 dash)

    Ensuring the tests are fair:

    To start off I created a new profile and played a game off the original DVD to get the entry on the profile. I then took a copy of this profile so I could compare it with the profile still on the memory card after loading the game in a different way, for example using xex loader.

    The game I did the testing with was Full Auto, for each of the test I loaded the game to the main menu then quit to the dashboard and signed the profile out. After that I dumped the profile to the PC so it could be compared in a hex editor to the profile that has only been used on the original MS dashboard with the original DVD in the Xbox 360.

    Test 1 - Installing the game:

    For this test I simply installed the game using the option in the MS dashboard, the installed game was not modified in any way after that.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.

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    Test 2 – Quickboot Shortcut:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc and loaded from the hard drive with a shortcut created by Quickboot 2.1.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.

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    Test 3 – User created games on demand container:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, from these files an ISO was created, this ISO was used with ISO2GOD 1.3.0 to create a games on demand container to load the game from.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD. You can also modify the title of the game in the container and it will not change the profile in any way.

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    Test 4 – Games loaded with XEX Loader:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from the homebrew application XEX loader

    Results: The profile was modified, although XEX loader doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

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    Test 5 – Games loaded with FreeStyle Dash 2.0a rev 1044:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from FreeStyle Dash.

    Results: The profile was modified, although Freestyle Dash doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

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    Test 6 – Profile with XEXMenu 1.1 loaded:

    For this test i simply had a profile signed in, I then loaded XEXMenu 1.1 and signed the profile out.

    Results: When compared to a copy of the profile taken before loading XEXMenu 1.1 it can be seen the profile was modified, although XEXMenu 1.1 doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.

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    Test 7 – Load a game with XEXMenu 1.1 then sign the profile in:

    For this test XEXMenu 1.1 was loaded up with no profile signed in, the game was then loaded and the profile was signed in as the games intro movie was playing.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way, when compared to a copy of the profile taken that had just loaded the game from the DVD the profile was identical.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Test 8 – Load a game from the original DVD on a Jtag and a non modded console:

    For this test the profile was signed in on the MS dashboard on the Jtag and the game was allowed to load to the main menu before the profile was signed out, the profile was then transfered over to a legit 360 that is not Jtag hacked or flashed. The profile was signed in on the MS dashboard and the game was allowed to load to the main menu.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way

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    Conclusion:

    I have completed the above tests with a few different games, and found the same results with each test.
    Games played off the DVD, installed to the hard drive or loaded from a container / Freeboot shortcut will not add any additional information to the profile that is signed in. However if a homebrew application is used to load the game such as XEX Loader, XEXMenu or Freestyle Dash modifications will be made to the profile even if they are not visible.

    You can however sign the profile out and load the game using a homebrew application such as XEX Menu, then sign the profile in when the game has loaded up and no additional data will be added to the profile.

    It would appear any application loading on the Xbox 360 will add data to the profile that is signed in, even if this application does not have achievements.

    Applications such as Freestyle dash do not appear to modify profiles that are not signed in, only the profiles that are signed in will be modified and have data added to them.



    Hopefully this testing might be useful to people who want to use a Jtagged Xbox 360 to play imports from other regions and keep the profile safe for Xbox Live use.
    Not swapped my Live HD to my jtag yet personally, anyone else done it?

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    Default Re: Using an Xbox Live profile on a Jtagged Xbox 360 and staying safe...

    Yean stuck me live profile on my jtag machine

    but to be honest i can't be arsed with live anymore get fed up of listening to fucking american kids talking shit all day long as was also getting fed up of getting my arse kicked on mw2 lol

    also dont really get the time to put into game playing at the mo either

    interesting reading though think i'll start going down the quickboot shortcut as my boy uses his profile on both machines but guess that he's already probabl been logged or has data written to his profile which could fuck him in the future

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    Kept mine separate, it's just gamerscore/games played.

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