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    Attention Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates


    Persistent illegal downloaders could have the plug pulled on their connection


    Rights-holders will bear the brunt of the costs for tackling copyright infringers, the government has said.
    The music and film industry will pay three-quarters of the costs of pursuing net pirates, with internet service providers paying the remaining quarter.
    ISPA, which represents UK ISPs, said it was "disappointed" that it had to share the costs of implementing the controversial legislation.
    The crackdown will see letters sent to those suspected of being net pirates.
    The government also revealed that there will be no fee charged to consumers who want to appeal against the notifications.
    It added a caveat though - if it receives large numbers of "unecessary appeals" it reserves the right to introduce a "small fee" down the line.


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    The plans, laid out in the Digital Economy Act, have proved highly controversial.
    It will see those identified as illegally downloading content sent a series of letters with the threat of further measures, such as slowing down offenders' internet connection or possibly removing them temporarily from the internet, if they continue.
    The policy, which was rushed through at the end of the last parliament, drew criticism from MPs who said the legislation was too complex to be made into law so quickly.
    Campaigners have said that legislating against file-sharing is doomed to failure, especially as many methods of sharing files now happen "off network".
    There are also concerns that innocent people could be caught out if their connection is hijacked by pirates.
    Internet service providers have questioned the legality of the Digital Economy Act and BT and TalkTalk are seeking a judicial review of the legislation.
    Announcing how the costs will be shared, communications minister Ed Vaizey reiterated the need for such a tough policy.
    "We expect the measures will benefit our creative economy by some £200m per year," he said.
    "Protecting our valuable creative industries, which have already suffered significant losses as a result of people sharing digital content without paying for it, is at the heart of these measures," he added.
    The music and film industries estimate that six million people in the UK regularly file-share copyrighted content without permission.


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    "I think it is outrageous that we have to pay to costs to enforce rights- holders' copyright policies,”
    End Quote Mark Schmid, communications director, TalkTalk


    An industry study, by economics firm TERA Consultants, estimated that the UK's creative industries experienced losses of £1.2bn in 2008 due to piracy.
    ISPA (Internet Service Providers' Association) said it was "disappointed" that ISPs had to pay any of the costs.
    Nicholas Lansman, ISPA Secretary General, said rights-holders should pay all the costs.
    "ISPA strongly believes that the internet offers excellent opportunities for rights holders to access their target market with relevant lawful content without the significant costs associated with a non-digital environment and views today's announcement as contrary to the promotion of the digital economy," he added.
    Mark Schmid, communication director for ISP TalkTalk, went further.
    "I think it is outrageous that we have to pay to costs to enforce rights-holders' copyright policies," he said.
    While Sebastien Lahtinen, co-founder of broadband news site ThinkBroadband welcomed the government's decision to keep the appeal mechanism free for consumers, he wasn't convinced the system would favour users.
    "We do still have some concerns about the level of technical understanding a consumer may require, to effectively challenge an allegation of copyright infringement, but we hope that the system will be designed to be as accessible as possible," he said.


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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    "I think it is outrageous that we have to pay to costs to enforce rights- holders' copyright policies,”
    End Quote Mark Schmid, communications director, TalkTalk

    Oh yeah? and in reality who is going to foot the bill? Consumers..
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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    No what hes trying to say is that the RIGHTS-HOLDERS should foot the bill, and then the pirate when caught. Not the ISP whom is providing the service and should not be responsible for what the consumer doe's with said service.

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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    if you think of it like ford getting charged everytime some one speeds in a focus, theres no way it'd be this stupid rule would be brought in

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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    Wonder what the pic of a vga lead adds to the story?

    Goes someway to explain why when they catch people, they mess them up proper.


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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    It's ok Nick Clegg promised if he formed part of the next Government this would be repealed and looked at properly before being passed into law.

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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Bouncer View Post
    It's ok Nick Clegg promised if he formed part of the next Government this would be repealed and looked at properly before being passed into law.

    Seeing is believing I'm afraid.

    Having said that I really hope he does actually achieve something.

    Has he actually mentioned it since the election at all ?
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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by 4me2 View Post
    Seeing is believing I'm afraid.

    Having said that I really hope he does actually achieve something.

    Has he actually mentioned it since the election at all ?
    No just ignored or talked round direct questions on it and let others say they weren't going to do shit to stop it, same as both Clegg and Cameron saying they would get the extradition agreement with the US changed to be equal and act to stop the extradition of Gary Mckinnon should they get into power and now hiding behind bullshit to claim they can't do anything.

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    Default Re: Rights-holders bear brunt of costs of chasing pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    Wonder what the pic of a vga lead adds to the story?
    It is one of the tools of the trade used by criminals to help with their dirty deeds (no drm )

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