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    BBC News G4S did not know of lack of staff



    Nick Buckles said G4S underestimated the task of supplying 10,000 Olympic security guards
    Senior managers at G4S only realised "eight or nine days ago", that they could not provide enough security guards for the London Olympics, the company's chief executive has said.

    Nick Buckles told the BBC that problems in the recruitment and deployment process were only recently identified.
    He also could not guarantee all the security staff spoke fluent English.

    G4S will charge Olympic organisers Locog £280m, but says it will lose up to £50m on the contract.

    Mr Buckles said the company accepted it had "underestimated the task of supplying staff to the Olympics".
    "We deeply regret that... and we are deeply disappointed. It was a daunting task to supply that number of staff in a short time scale.

    "I began to know it was going wrong eight or nine days ago... Basically we are recruiting a large number of people and they are all working through a process of interview, two or three different degrees of training, licensing and accreditation.

    "It is only when you get closer to the Games, you realise that the number is not as high as you expect," Mr Buckles added.
    G4S signed a contract with Locog in 2010 to supply 2,000 security staff to work at Olympic venues.

    Unanswered questions In December 2011, the Games organisers asked the company to provide an additional 8,000 guards, bringing the total to 10,000 staff.

    Mr Buckles would not confirm exactly how much the government were penalising the company for failing to fulfil the contract. But he estimated the figure would be around £10m-£20m.

    The Commons Public Accounts Committee has summoned G4S, two government departments and 2012 organiser Locog to answer questions in September.

    Mr Buckles has been asked to appear before the Home Affairs Select Committee next week.
    The head of the company could also not guarantee that all of the security personnel were fluent English speakers.

    "I am pretty sure they [the staff] can, but I cannot say categorically as I sit here today," he said.
    "I do not know about the individuals. As part of the process they have to have a right to work in the UK, and they have been interviewed, screened and vetted to a very high standard."

    G4S have agreed to pay for the deployment of 3,500 extra military personnel, to plug the gap in security staff.

    Culture secretary Jeremy Hunt said any serviceman who had been inconvenienced would have their costs repaid through refunds from the G4S contract.

    Mr Buckles added: "We are very very grateful to the military for providing this support. To the individuals we are grateful that they are giving up time with family to come and help us."

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    Amazing some of the statements coming out from G4S they really are a bunch of useless twats

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    Dumb fucks just saw the money more like... G4S do my work's security and they are shite...

    They have probably signed up a few radicals as well and been oblivious.


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    Default Re: G4S did not know of lack of staff

    How could they not have known? It's not like the Olympics have suddenly cropped up out of the fucking blue. Now to be fair, another 8000 people is a lot, but they've had since last December to find them.

    If I was as shit at my job as these guys seem to be I'd be out the door tout fucking suite.
    How about a positive LSD story? Would you like to see a positive LSD story on the news to hear what's it all about, perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting just once?

    "Today, a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves... Here's Tom with the weather".

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    Default Re: G4S did not know of lack of staff

    they just thinking of the cash, they should be fined in not coming up with the correct number of staff for the event. Bet that wasnt put in the tender document

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    Well might be more to come as rumour is Theresa May's husband is a major shareholder in G4S

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    Lowest bid, biggest bung for Lord Corrupt.
    If at first you don't succeed.....redefine success. . . .


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    Default Re: G4S did not know of lack of staff

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki View Post
    they just thinking of the cash, they should be fined in not coming up with the correct number of staff for the event. Bet that wasnt put in the tender document
    They SUPPOSEDLY have been penalised for the fuck up, hence his assertion that they will make a £50m loss, I reckon the accounts on this whole bullshit exercise will be dodgy as fuck though, a budget that went from £2bn in stages up to £12bn says it all really.
    If at first you don't succeed.....redefine success. . . .


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    Knowing how slow CRB checks are, im speculating that the government had a part to play in not getting the checks done in time, and the whole thing will be covered up,

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    Default Re: G4S did not know of lack of staff

    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Bouncer View Post
    Theresa May
    Why do I fill with rage when I see that cunts name?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    Why do I fill with rage when I see that cunts name?
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    I'm not sure....I think she's rather hot myself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    Dumb fucks just saw the money more like... G4S do my work's security and they are shite...
    Mavericks. Bird I work with got some part time work with them through an agency. Applied in the morning and ended up working that night at Etihad Stadium. No induction, no H & S, no checks or fuck all. Got chucked a hi-vis coat and told to stop anyone looking handy. Pmfsl. She's 17 and 8 stone wet through.

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    We have them at our place...most of them are friendly enough, but there was a shortage last week and they ended up getting an overweight 75 year old bloke in to cover the shift....and worse still, he was wearing a dreaded white sock / sandals combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fon View Post
    Knowing how slow CRB checks are, im speculating that the government had a part to play in not getting the checks done in time, and the whole thing will be covered up,

    Fon
    I think with regards to this it is safe to assume all the incompetence lies at the feet of G4S. They really are that bad.

    Several of the other security outfits started coming up with contingency plans as soon as it was announced G4S won it.

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    They left Olympics high and dry – but G4S will not pay penalty

    Government confirms no penalty clause in security firm's contract, despite Theresa May's assertions

    Private security company G4S will not be financially penalised for failing to recruit sufficient security guards for the Olympic Games, it emerged last night.
    The firm has been accused of letting the country down just two weeks before the Games, with soldiers forced to cancel family holidays to ensure venues are protected. But a senior Government source told The Independent that the contract with G4S did not include a penalty clause.
    The revelation appears to contradict a statement by the Home Secretary Theresa May in the House of Commons. She told MPs that while the contract was between G4S and the Games organisers Locog, she understood that there were "penalties within that contract".
    A source said that in fact it was a pro-rata agreement where G4S were paid for each extra security guard they supplied – and not penalised if they did not make the overall target. "The person who negotiated the contract should be shot," the source said.
    It is also understood that the Ministry of Defence – who only found out about the troop request on Monday – have demanded that all the additional cost is borne by the Home Office.
    Last night it was also claimed that G4S's recruitment problems may have been exacerbated by the Home Office's delays in vetting candidates.
    Theresa May yesterday told the Commons that she was only told that the firm could not honour its contract on Wednesday, although ministers had been aware that extra troops might be needed for a couple of weeks.
    A spokesperson for Locog, which negotiated the £284m contract with G4S, said: "If G4S are not providing the same number of staff as they were before, they will not be being paid the same amount of money."
    Senior armed forces officers are concerned that the extra demands on troops will have a damaging effect on morale. Some will be forced to cancel family holidays while others have recently returned from deployment and will be going almost directly into checking bags at Olympic venues.
    Some of the troops put on Olympic duty have just received redundancy notices, including members of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
    Some will have to be brought back from postings abroad, including in Canada. A camp is likely to be set up to house them in north east London. All this, and compensating those who lose their holidays, will add to the cost.
    Meanwhile people who had applied for G4S's more than 10,000 Olympic security jobs emerged to complain about the company. Some said they had been sent security passes to access Olympic venues before training, whilst others said they had been given the job without any sessions at all.
    Regardless of any potential financial cost to the company, the embarrassment for such a major player in the security business will be severe. G4S, formed in 2004 by a merger of Group 4, Falck and Securicor, manages six prisons, three secure training centres and two immigration centres in the UK – and it has a world profile to think about too, with 657,000 employees across the globe and an annual revenue of £7.5bn stemming from work in more than 125 countries.
    The Labour MP Margaret Hodge who chairs the Public Accounts Committee which has attempted to scrutinise the Olympics' ever-rising security budget, told the Independent: “We shall have the Home Office back in September and we shall get to the bottom of that contract. The Home Office Permanent Secretary and the Locog Chief Executive were absolutely clear to us when they increased that contract that they were confident G4S could deliver. We asked them, 'How can you double or nearly triple the numbers at this late stage and expect them to deliver?' But they told us they were confident they would.”
    According to documents shown to the Public Accounts Committee, of the £284m, £125m constitutes G4S's "program management" and "operational costs", which rose from around £10m when the contract was renegotiated. "We will not be getting any of that par back," Ms Hodge claimed.
    A spokesperson for G4S said: "We have encountered some delays in progressing applicants through the final stages but we are working extremely hard to process these as swiftly as possible."
    Profile: So who are G4S?
    * Formed by merger of Group 4, Falck and Securicor in 2004.
    * Operates in more than 125 countries with 657,000 employees.
    * Annual revenue of £7.5bn.
    * Provides security services at 14 UK airports and four ports.
    * Manages six UK prisons, three secure training centres, and two immigration centres.
    * Current chief executive is Nick Buckles, the Essex-born son of a dinner lady.
    Surrey Police pull out of £1.5bn contract
    Surrey Police has withdrawn from Britain's biggest privatisation contract. Some of the candidates for the job of the force's police and crime commissioner actively campaigned against it, citing G4S as a factor. G4S is on a shortlist of six groups bidding for the £1.5bn "business partnership programme" with West Midlands Police, under which private companies would take over a wide range of policing functions including detaining suspects.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-7939668.html

    This is one of those that really show how corrupt this country is. Even if the govt were incompetent enough to not factor in penalties, the obvious solution is to bill g4s £350m for services provided by the army, some portion of which should actually be given as a bonus to those having to do the actual work that others were paid to do.

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    In a climate where there is a huge jobless rate ?

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