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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    It's a no from me. I personally couldn't do it. Like Zippeyrude I will move a bug out of the house, or even happily share my house with it rather than kill it. I can even persuade flies to leave by opening the door and doing an arm waving dance around the room. Unlike Zippeyrude I like cats and love dogs... and by that I don't mean I have sex with them. Just thought I would clarify that to avoid the usual comments. (">

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    How secure is the job? It sounds like your current job is pretty secure so regardless you shouldn't risk becoming unemployed.

    On a moral viewpoint, well I'e seen some terrible animal cruelty here in the east and you have to accept it sometimes, if you define your morals and truly do research into who and what breaks them, you would probably never buy another mass produced item in your life.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Quote Originally Posted by CallmeGoose View Post
    Might have a possible job interview with a company called huntington life sciences. The guy on the phone uttered the word controversial which peaked my interest so I googled them... and this was one of the first things I found...



    I hate animal cruelty. Words can not describe how much it boils my blood.

    But on the other hand I will only be a maintenance tech, and the money is fantastic, and not to mention the fact I am desperate for a shore based job.

    So the question is, do I sacrifice my ethics and core beliefs by working for a company which possible does what the above states?
    Had a tour of HLS buildings about 8 years ago as part of an interview... the security is high and there was one group of buildings they would not let us near.. they are tight lipped and I didn't go back but tbh you don't know what is the media
    over exaggerating or what is true so I didn't give it much thought

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Do it mate and see how it's goes, the press do go over the top most of the time, like you said you are desperate for an on shore job, at least try it and if you stumble across things you don't like you can start looking for another. Morals and ethics are one thing but putting food on the table is another different ball game especially in this economic climate.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Quote Originally Posted by {{909}} View Post
    On a moral viewpoint, well I'e seen some terrible animal cruelty here in the east and you have to accept it sometimes, if you define your morals and truly do research into who and what breaks them, you would probably never buy another mass produced item in your life.
    Its important to understand that people who work in HLS are not doing so because they hate animals, very much the opposite.
    The way I see it, the more people working there who do believe in the ethical treatment of animals (and are willing to blow the whistle) the better.
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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Its a no from me too, if you having thoughts about it then deep down you know its a no from you too

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    My first instinct was do it (along a similar mindset to GTI) but second thoughts about having it on your CV - you never know what HR in another company or an interviewer will think of it.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Who is at the top of the foodchain again? Suck it up, take the job.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Have you considered that rather than being a stepping stone to something even better, HLS could be a blot on your CV that will deter future potential employers? It only takes one animal lover with a knowledge of HLS to see that name on your CV and immediately throw it in the bin. That's what I would be worried about.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Don't really understand why you are asking the question as others can't decide as only you can questioning your own morality, ethics and conscience. I can understand from a safety point of view and other aspects others have hit on but you seem to be asking others to reassure you that you would be doing the right thing and only looking inside yourself can resolve that.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    I don't need reassurances from people , I guess I should have worded it differently - was just seeing what other people would do if presented with a potentially unethical situation.

    A lot of good points of view from various people, and wether I cannot condone animal cruelty , at the end of the day in this financial climate, paying the bills and putting food on the table is more important

    By accepting a position, I may well be contributing to the suffering, although not directly. I guess I can only see how I would react in the situation at that particular moment.

    I am desperate to come ashore and have been for some time and there aren't a lot of shore based positions out there at the moment.

    My family's happiness and security has to come first, ill have to deal with the moral and ethical consequences later

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    Quote Originally Posted by tawny View Post
    Have you considered that rather than being a stepping stone to something even better, HLS could be a blot on your CV that will deter future potential employers? It only takes one animal lover with a knowledge of HLS to see that name on your CV and immediately throw it in the bin. That's what I would be worried about.
    Perhaps if you were applying to PETA for a job, but most HR professionals will have more sense and integrity than to discriminate based on work history. They have to justify in writing why you were not considered, and most will know better than to lie. Maybe I'm just biased because I work in Pharma??
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    Perhaps if you were applying to PETA for a job, but most HR professionals will have more sense and integrity than to discriminate based on work history. They have to justify in writing why you were not considered, and most will know better than to lie. Maybe I'm just biased because I work in Pharma??
    You seem to always try and justify your profession, is it guilt? Or are you just a well trained pharma apologist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    Perhaps if you were applying to PETA for a job, but most HR professionals will have more sense and integrity than to discriminate based on work history. They have to justify in writing why you were not considered, and most will know better than to lie. Maybe I'm just biased because I work in Pharma??
    "we note that the applicant previously worked for HLS, unfortunately this is not a good fit with company xyz's views"

    Not hard. Or even just there were better suited applicants.

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    most HR professionals will have more sense and integrity than to discriminate based on work history.
    My arse.

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    Are you willing to comment further on this goose?

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    I don't think that's something anyone can decide but you,but if it makes you feel better ,then if you don't take the job some one else will . Nothing changes except you have a better job .
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    The pay probably includes danger money. Have you ever heard of the ALF?
    And SHAC ...

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    Default Re: Ethics and Morality about a possible job offer?

    After reading up on these places. I, personally, would turn the job down.

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    Hi
    I also would have nothing to do with those bastards
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