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    DailyMail The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket, and spell the end of 'unexpected items in the bagging area'

    No one likes to queue. Even the British who, it's often joked, invented the orderly line, are getting sick of it. Recent research suggests most Britons are now prepared to tolerate queueing for only four minutes.
    Yet the average British shopper spends a painful 53 minutes a month in supermarket queues. Together with all the time spent waiting for buses and trains, it mounts up to nearly six months of queueing in a lifetime. Haven't we got anything better to do?
    No wonder, then, that stores spend millions of pounds trying to reduce their customers' queueing time.

    First came barcode scanners, then the super-irritating self-service checkouts made famous for their constant refrain of 'unexpected item in the bagging area'. But now all the waits and irritation could be in the past with the arrival of the Rapid Scan.

    Jill Foster at ASDA's 360 degree checkout with ASDA employee Lauren Day

    The scanner, which is being trialled by Asda, can scan products from any angle as they pass through it on a conveyor belt, meaning the check-out operator no longer has to spend precious seconds jiggling the barcode into position. It can scan 100 products in just one minute, which is apparently three times faster than by hand.

    I filled my shopping basket at my local Asda in Monks Cross, York to try it out and see how it compared with conventional checkouts.




    The Rapid Scan

    Black, angular and with bright white lights and red lasers, the Rapid Scan would look at home on Darth Vader's Death Star, and I give it days before some five-year-old boy is clambering on it trying to scan himself.
    It's only been at the store since July 1 and according to Lauren, the cashier who is manning it today, it's proving very popular. (It does have an operator, allaying fears that lots of people will lose their jobs.)
    Unlike ordinary scanners, which only emit a laser from one angle, the Rapid Scan is a 360-degree scanner, so can read the barcode on the item no matter how you place it on the conveyor belt - even if the barcode is on the base of the item because the conveyor belt is divided in one place and a laser comes up through the divide.
    This frees the operator to unload your basket for you, so you can be ready, waiting at the other end, to bag it up in no time.

    The Rapid Scan is a 360-degree scanner, so can read the barcode on the item no matter how you place it

    The other reason the cashier unpacks for you is that if items are piled on top of each other instead of in a neat orderly line, the scanner could get confused.
    It scans every item individually in less than one second - meaning it's capable of processing 100 per minute. With the average trolley containing 46 items, their new gadget is said to cut the average time to well under a minute.
    This immediately feels like less work and my shopping - 17 items including dishwasher tablets, milk, bread, bananas and red wine - whizz through quickly. In fact, the only downside for me was that I couldn't keep up, so I ended up with a slight logjam because I wasn't packing fast enough.
    If I'd bought lots of soft products such as fruit or bread and they were followed by an avalanche of tins, that might annoy me. But while I might have felt the need to speed up to save my soft goods from squashing, I didn't have the 'packing pressure' you normally feel when someone is tapping their foot behind you in the queue.

    'The Rapid Scan scans every item individually in less than one second - meaning it's capable of processing 100 per minute. With the average trolley containing 46 items, their new gadget is said to cut the average time to well under a minute'
    Thanks to a double conveyor belt, the operator can serve the next customer as soon as you've paid - giving you time to fill your bags.

    As for weighed produce, customers have a choice. Either they can print out their own barcode at the fruit and veg section, or they can take it straight to the rapid scan which has a weighing scale.
    Unlike self-service scanners, payment isn't automated - the operator is also a conventional cashier. But, when it comes to paying, only credit or debit cards are accepted, which would be a disappointment to those who prefer to use cash. Is this the cashless future coming home to roost? Maybe.

    Still, I'm all packed in less than two minutes. I cannot over-estimate what a Godsend this would be if my 11-month-old twin daughters Charlotte and Martha were with me - they aren't the most patient of customers.

    TIME: A speedy one minute 55 seconds. A high-tech success.
    The packing area is so small I find I'm playing a kind of shopping Jenga

    Self-Service

    The self-service checkout was introduced into UK supermarkets in the Nineties and hailed as the end to queueing. But research in 2010 showed that in some supermarkets waiting times for staffed tills actually went up, because customers were wary of the self-service tills.

    They also made people less honest. In a survey last year, almost a third of customers admitted to stealing, as the checkouts are often poorly supervised - at Asda today we have only one member of staff for eight checkouts.
    However, the thing I find most frustrating about the self-serve is not the scanning but the packing. Perhaps my technique is wrong but I find it easier to scan everything first and then pack when I've finished. But the packing area is so small I find I'm playing a kind of shopping Jenga, balancing a loaf on top of an egg box on top of a lettuce.

    And where to put my handbag when I'm packing without getting that dreaded 'unexpected item in the bagging area' message? Grrr. I also don't like the fact that when you use a self-service check-out, fruit and vegetables don't have a barcode and therefore you have go through a painstaking process to identify them from a long list.
    Today, I have only bananas, which are pretty simple to locate, but Lord help the person who buys kumquats or guava.
    According to a spokesperson for Asda, there's no typical person who prefers the self-service although I know the over-60s in my family don't like them. But I use them regularly because I find them extremely convenient.
    This time, my bread doesn't seem to want to scan and I have a slight delay when I need to call over the supervisor to authorise my bottle of Rioja - which wouldn't happen on the rapid scan because there is always a cashier on hand. But I'm packed and paid in less than five minutes.

    TIME: Four minutes two seconds. Quick, but takes practice. If you don't know your Braeburn apples from your Galas, you're going to have a long wait.

    Cashier Checkout

    Asda's own research shows that while many people do use self-scan tills for a few purchases, 60 per cent prefer traditional manned tills for larger, trolley shops.
    I have a lot of time for checkout operators, having been one myself at Tesco for four years during the Nineties.

    I have a lot of time for checkout operators, having been one myself at Tesco for four years

    Today, my checkout operator - or 'associate' as Asda prefers to call them - is Ruby, a cheerful young lady who has worked in the store for the last two years during her breaks from Newcastle University where she's studying accountancy.

    She's local and says she enjoys her job (mind you, her boss is standing 6ft away) and seems genuinely happy in what she's doing.

    How do I know all this? I talked to her. Faceless technology might be speeding up our lives but is it making us more lonely?
    For some customers, a chat with a cashier might be the only contact they have with another human being all day.
    Ruby asks if I would like help with my packing - and I would. I start unpacking and she starts scanning. She whizzes through the items quickly, packing half of them until I take over. I'm packed, paid and ready to go in under two-and-a-half minutes.

    TIME: Two minutes 20. If there's no queue at a cashier-operated checkout, even with the Rapid Scan in store, I'd still opt for this way of paying. In our increasingly virtual online world, isn't it nice occasionally to deal with another human being?

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    I fkin hate them self service machines. There seem to be more and more of them in supermarkets nowadays as well. All becuase they save money on wages, there is no benefit to customers at all. How about getting rid of them and creating more jobs?


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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Sometimes I wish I was a woman and all I had to worry about in life was if my soft fruit was going to get squashed by a heavy load, how long it takes to get through a supermarket checkout or what shoe's to wear.
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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    I am surprised we haven't got some sort of RF tagging system by now so you can just wheel your trolley thru some sort of metal detector gate and it would recognise everything in there, I know this isn't as easy to to do as it sounds as you will have to take into account shoplifting etc but think the supermarkets must have their R/D depts. looking at something better than the current system.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    It's not the scanning that's the problem, it's the people packing at the other end. Do you see massive lines in Aldi for any length of time? No, because you scan and re fill the trolly and then move to a packing station.

    That's the future.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Spot on with the aldi comment mate, it feels alien the first time but you soon get used to it

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    emptying trolley onto conveyor, scanning every item is the bottle neck my system would read every item in your trolley at once so it would be more like the security checks in an airport, where you wheel trolley thru and then just go to a packing station like you say then they could do 10 customers and min rather than 1 every 5 mins.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Why not put a scanner onto the trolley, you scan stuff as you put it in, this scanner then removes and docks at the till. You pay and at the same time your trolley sits on some scales in the floor like a small weighbridge and the weight is checked to make sure you ain't slipped anything in that should not be there. And you are on your way

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by lloydi View Post
    Why not put a scanner onto the trolley, you scan stuff as you put it in, this scanner then removes and docks at the till. You pay and at the same time your trolley sits on some scales in the floor like a small weighbridge and the weight is checked to make sure you ain't slipped anything in that should not be there. And you are on your way
    Sainsbury's and Waitrose used to do it, you collected a scanner at the start of York shopping. I suppose it never caught on as I have not seen it for some time.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by lloydi View Post
    Why not put a scanner onto the trolley, you scan stuff as you put it in, this scanner then removes and docks at the till. You pay and at the same time your trolley sits on some scales in the floor like a small weighbridge and the weight is checked to make sure you ain't slipped anything in that should not be there. And you are on your way

    They do this in Waitrose. But I see most people here are only familiar with the Aldi model.

    It's hard being aspiring middle class...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geko View Post
    They do this in Waitrose. But I see most people here are only familiar with the Aldi model.

    It's hard being aspiring middle class...!
    Yeah they use this in Waitrose but is a lot of trust put into the user which could u imagine Tesco having that sort of trust?

    As say my idea is a little more complex than it first looks as in from them the security side in stopping people tampering with the rf labels etc but sure some boffins could iron out the details, if patented a working system like this I would believe most of the supermarket chains would buy it and you be a millionaire ;-)

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Home delivery is the future, and its better for the environment too.
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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    Home delivery is the future, and its better for the environment too.

    Waitrose also deliver for free.

    But I only use them once a month or so. As the majority of the time I am shopping at the farm or on the local high street, which I walk to. We also have a farmers market twice a month, so I walk to that too.

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    I got the perfect system......my mrs does it!
    TAR seems to be a decent bloke!

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by akimba View Post
    I am surprised we haven't got some sort of RF tagging system by now so you can just wheel your trolley thru some sort of metal detector gate and it would recognise everything in there, I know this isn't as easy to to do as it sounds as you will have to take into account shoplifting etc but think the supermarkets must have their R/D depts. looking at something better than the current system.
    Supermarkets were trialling exactly this about a decade ago. I got to see one. You just pushed your trolley through it. It was great because you could bag up as you went round. Imagine today with a contactless payment card. Just straight out to the car. Now that's the queue killer.

    No idea why it never got used. I assume it was too expensive.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    It's not the scanning that's the problem, it's the people packing at the other end. Do you see massive lines in Aldi for any length of time? No, because you scan and re fill the trolly and then move to a packing station.

    That's the future.
    Kwik Save used to do that 30 years ago, also used to have all of the boxes available that you could use instead of carrier bags

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Home delivery all the way, we get our delivered from Ocado it arrives between 8am & 9am every Saturday morning takes 15 mins to unload and pack away.

    They have an app so the wife compiles the list on the iPad and add to it almost everyday as we run out of stuff, it's so easy.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnzie View Post
    Supermarkets were trialling exactly this about a decade ago. I got to see one. You just pushed your trolley through it. It was great because you could bag up as you went round. Imagine today with a contactless payment card. Just straight out to the car. Now that's the queue killer.

    No idea why it never got used. I assume it was too expensive.
    Yeah I think the tech was expensive then but I would imagine that the supermarkets could get suppliers to NFC labels or something that are a lot cheaper now as you say I cant see why one of the big chains would not buy into this as the amount of tills needed and staff would decrease massively and therefor save money, as say the security side of it would have to be looked into as people would wipe RF labels with magnets etc blah blah.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    I fkin hate them self service machines. There seem to be more and more of them in supermarkets nowadays as well. All becuase they save money on wages, there is no benefit to customers at all. How about getting rid of them and creating more jobs?
    Totally agree I just won't use them, anyone old enough will remember 'self service' petrol pumps being introduce with the bollox of cheaper fuel etc which at first it was cheaper but then of course when you had no choice they pushed the price up and just pocketed more profit.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Overdose View Post
    I fkin hate them self service machines. There seem to be more and more of them in supermarkets nowadays as well. All becuase they save money on wages, there is no benefit to customers at all. How about getting rid of them and creating more jobs?
    There's room for 4 tills in my local sainsburys. With the self service theres an extra 8 checkouts. Pretty sure there'd be less jobs there if they didn't have all the extra self service tills.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    It's not the scanning that's the problem, it's the people packing at the other end. Do you see massive lines in Aldi for any length of time? No, because you scan and re fill the trolly and then move to a packing station.

    That's the future.
    This.

    Definitely not the scanning that's the issue, if the person at the checkout scanned as quickly as they could they'd probably be faster than this machine.

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    Default Re: The super scanner that could kill off queues at the supermarket.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrand View Post
    It's not the scanning that's the problem, it's the people packing at the other end. Do you see massive lines in Aldi for any length of time? No, because you scan and re fill the trolly and then move to a packing station.

    That's the future.
    This was common place if I remember in Kwik Save as well when I was a kid (late 80's/early 90's)


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