Close

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    DF Admin 4me2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    33,090
    Thanks
    1,879
    Thanked:        2,033
    Karma Level
    2254

    BBC News Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning





    "It is right to take difficult decisions.... it means we can keep more people employed"


    Continue reading the main storyRelated Stories




    Unions have reacted with anger to news of a fresh round of below-inflation pay rises for NHS staff in England.


    Ministers have announced a basic 1% pay rise, but the 600,000 nurses and other staff receiving automatic "progression-in-job" increases, "typically worth over 3%", will not get the 1% as well.
    The main health service unions in England said they would consult members on taking industrial action.
    Members of the armed forces, prison officers and judges are due 1% rises.
    The Consumer Prices Index (CPI) measure of inflation is currently at 2%, and the NHS pay review body had recommended that all NHS staff should get a 1% pay rise - whether they were also entitled to progression pay increases or not.


    The Scottish government has said it will adopt the NHS pay review body's recommendations in full, meaning that all NHS staff in Scotland will receive the 1% pay rise. In addition, NHS staff in Scotland earning under £21,000 a year will get a £300 rise.
    The devolved governments in Northern Ireland and Wales have not yet announced whether they will follow suit.




    But Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt saidimplementing the pay body's recommendations in England would be "unaffordable and would risk the quality of patient care".
    He told BBC Radio 4's The World at One around 6,000 nursing job would have had to be cut if everyone in the NHS had got the 1% rise.
    He said: "The whole progression pay system is mad. I mean someone on a £50,000 salary will get a 4.7% progression pay rise, whereas someone on £14,000 would only get a 2.5% progression pay rise. It shouldn't just be about time served it should be about how well you look after patients."
    Unison's Christina McAnea accused the government of mixing up annual pay rises with the increments "designed to reflect the growing skills and experience of nurses and other healthcare workers".



    Jeremy Hunt: "I would dearly like to be more generous, but not if it means laying off 6,000 nurses"

    'Very modest

    '
    "They are not a substitute for the annual pay rise that is needed to meet the increasing cost of living," she said.
    "If the government is set on imposing this change, it clearly doesn't understand how increments work. As it stands, they save the NHS money but if this divisive plan goes ahead Unison will be arguing strongly that staff should be paid the full rate for the job from day one.
    "I am appalled that this coalition government can openly boast about the economic recovery and claim that we are all feeling the benefits and then treat health workers so shoddily."



    But Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander claimed that the progression pay increases were often worth 3%-4% and were awarded simply "because of time served in the job" to more than half of NHS workers.

    He told the BBC: "The extra 1% should be confined to those who otherwise wouldn't see any pay rise at all.
    "That's what the country can afford."



    He conceded this was a "very modest increase", but said: "We had two years of a pay freeze, where people who worked for the government didn't get any pay rise at all - except those who receive these increments, who continued to get those even during the years of the pay freeze."
    Pay restraint had to be a "big part" of resolving the "huge financial problems we have as a country", he added.


    NHS pay facts



    • Senior managers' average pay is £78,513
    • Doctors' average earnings: £74,167
    • Managers' average earnings £49,475
    • Nurses' and midwives' average earnings is £30,854
    • 55% of staff get incremental pay increases
    • 45% don't get incremental pay increases because they are at top of their pay band


    Rachel Maskell, of Unite the union which represents 100,000 NHS workers, told the BBC that the pay offer was "the straw that breaks the camel's back - a step too far".
    "People have got a right to stand up for their terms and conditions, and the government over the years have taken advantage of the fact that people are professional at their work, they are predominantly women workers, and have made a calculation that they can abuse their staff over their pay," she said.
    "Enough is enough, and our members are saying they want consultation over industrial action."
    The government said the 1% pay offer for 2014-15, which is to non-pensionable earnings, would be followed up with a 2% pay offer for 2015-16, also to non-pensionable earnings and also excluding those getting incremental increases.
    It urged unions to forgo progression pay increases for a year in 2015-16, in exchange for applying the 1% rise across the board to the pensionable salary of NHS staff.




    Workers in Northern Ireland said a 1% pay rise would make little difference


    Separately, Mr Alexander has also announced that government departments were not contributing enough to their employees' pension funds.
    A detailed review of NHS, teachers' and civil service pension schemes was not due to be published until later in the spring, he said.
    "But it is already clear that these will show the level of contributions paid by employers have not been sufficient to meet the full long-term costs of these schemes.
    "If current rates were allowed to continue, the shortfall would be nearly £1bn a year across the teachers', civil service and NHS schemes.
    "The government is therefore taking corrective action, and will introduce new higher employer contribution rates for these schemes from 2015. This will ensure that the contributions paid by public service employers reflect the full costs of the schemes, including the costs of the deficits that have arisen since previous valuations.



    Unite's Rachel Maskell says the pay offer is "a step too far"

    "This will not have any impact on existing pensioners, on member benefits, or on the contributions paid by employees in those schemes. Instead it will ensure that pension costs are properly met by employers and do not fall as an additional cost to the taxpayer."
    GPs' expensesBut Brian Strutton, of the GMB union, said the pensions announcement was a "con trick" to justify the "harsh NHS pay announcement" by suggesting that the cost of pensions had increased.
    "But that is not the case. There are no extra costs. Let's not be fooled, there is no justification for the NHS pay review body being overruled."
    The government also said that GPs in England would see an increase of 1% to their income, adding that there would also be "movement in their expenses".
    The British Medical Association's Mark Porter predicted that GPs would be "unfairly hit" by the changes.
    "Despite delivering substantial efficiency savings while at the same time facing ever increasing workload pressures and patient demand, today's announcement will continue to see practice income eroded as practice expenses increase disproportionately to income," he said.
    Mr Alexander said it would be left to individual departments in Whitehall to decide whether to offer senior civil servants the 1% pay rise.
    Police and crime commissioners, who oversee the 41 police forces in England and Wales, are not due to receive the 1% pay increase.
    The pay offer for prison officers is also relevant to England and Wales only.
    Salaries for police officers, council workers and teachers are determined in a separate process.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26556047
    There are 3 types of people in the world - those who make things happen, those who watch things happen; and those who wondered what happened.

    http://newsarse.com/

    Conservatives. Putting the 'N' into Cuts.

    Thanks to 4me2

    elephantsoup (13th March 2014)  


  2. #2
    DF Admin 4me2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    33,090
    Thanks
    1,879
    Thanked:        2,033
    Karma Level
    2254

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    Quote Originally Posted by Cunteron View Post





    "It is right to take difficult decisions.... it means we can keep more people employed"

    The fucking decision to award yourself and your fellow pigs fucking 12% wasn't a a difficult decision though was it ?
    There are 3 types of people in the world - those who make things happen, those who watch things happen; and those who wondered what happened.

    http://newsarse.com/

    Conservatives. Putting the 'N' into Cuts.

    5 Thanks given to 4me2

    Bald Bouncer (13th March 2014),  DavidF (13th March 2014),  flumperino (13th March 2014),  macmilm (13th March 2014),  Over Carl (13th March 2014)  


  3. #3
    DF VIP Member ivrytwr3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Lincolnshire
    Posts
    817
    Thanks
    756
    Thanked:        470
    Karma Level
    225

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    1%, lol! Worth about £400 per year for me. Glad inflation isn't pushing up the cost of living - oh wait..............

  4. #4
    DF VIP Member Over Carl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    13,125
    Thanks
    3,975
    Thanked:        1,690
    Karma Level
    1252

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    I can fully understand the Government's stance on this. Obviously Vodafone have more of a right to avoid tax then workers of the NHS have to protect their living standards.

    2 Thanks given to Over Carl

    4me2 (13th March 2014),  Ganty (14th March 2014)  


  5. #5
    DF VIP Member flumperino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Isle of flumps
    Posts
    9,612
    Thanks
    521
    Thanked:        679
    Karma Level
    882

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    What annoys me most about this is that photo. I am so sick of seeing that smug face, with the smug expression that be gives when he is about to say 'difficult decision, blah blah....right thing to do...blah blah,....good of the economy' etc

    2 Thanks given to flumperino

    4me2 (13th March 2014),  Mule (14th March 2014)  


  6. #6
    DF Probation macmilm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Suffolk, UK
    Posts
    3,817
    Thanks
    1,662
    Thanked:        1,295
    Karma Level
    559

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    Quote Originally Posted by flumperino View Post
    What annoys me most about this is that photo. I am so sick of seeing that smug face, with the smug expression that be gives when he is about to say 'difficult decision, blah blah....right thing to do...blah blah,....good of the economy' etc
    He really has got the sort of face that makes you want to slap the bastard senseless....

  7. #7
    DF VIP Member stevo25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    grim north
    Posts
    3,349
    Thanks
    1,413
    Thanked:        700
    Karma Level
    485

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    I wonder what my union rep will say tomorrow when I see him. BTW I work in the NHS

  8. #8
    DF VIP Member
    supraman54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    NW Kent
    Posts
    1,278
    Thanks
    440
    Thanked:        350
    Karma Level
    352

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    Not had a rise in the last 7 years.. mind you I work for a french company and they're well tight..

    still I gotta job

    supe
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2920820230.png

  9. #9
    DF VIP Member DavidF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    GLASGOW
    Posts
    994
    Thanks
    389
    Thanked:        743
    Karma Level
    313

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    I think this is a prelude to more privatization. What the government are looking for is strikes, work to rule overtime bans ect ect ect. They want to see all of this with the inevitable deaths that will result. Then with public backing they will start the proper attack on the NHS. I just hope people have half a brain and realize that any deaths here will be on the governments hands and not the staff that they are goading into a corner.

    4 Thanks given to DavidF

    4me2 (14th March 2014),  Bald Bouncer (14th March 2014),  Over Carl (14th March 2014),  stevo25 (14th March 2014)  


  10. #10
    DF VIP Member stevo25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    grim north
    Posts
    3,349
    Thanks
    1,413
    Thanked:        700
    Karma Level
    485

    Default Re: Fresh squeeze on NHS pay sparks union strike warning

    Very similar opinion to mine. I can foresee the Trust I work in getting cut up and slowly privatised

    Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk 2

Similar Threads

  1. Counter Strike
    By bean_2k1 in forum PC Gaming
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 15th December 2002, 02:42 PM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 7th September 2002, 12:48 PM
  3. Warning to athletes looking 2 put on weight
    By Porthos in forum Health & Fitness
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 29th August 2002, 06:03 PM
  4. Bag Of Fresh Shrimps
    By guvnor in forum The Comedy Club
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 29th August 2002, 02:33 PM

Social Networking Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •