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    Default Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

    Publicist Max Clifford has been found guilty of eight indecent assaults on women and girls as young as 15 by a jury at Southwark Crown Court.
    The 71-year-old, from Surrey, was found guilty of a string of charges over a period of nearly 20 years.
    He was cleared of two charges of indecent assault, while the jury failed to reach a verdict on another charge.
    Clifford, who is the first person to be convicted under Operation Yewtree, was bailed and will be sentenced on Friday.
    Judge Anthony Leonard QC warned him that the fact he was granted bail was no indication of the sentence that would be passed.
    Clifford was arrested by detectives from Operation Yewtree in December 2012, and charged in April the following year.
    BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the verdicts were "hugely significant" as the first Operation Yewtree conviction.
    During the trial, prosecutors portrayed him as a well-practised manipulator, who promised to boost his victims' careers and get them to meet celebrities in exchange for sexual favours.

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    Must admit was very surprised at this mainly because of all the people jumping on the bandwagon and the recent Not Guilty verdict in other cases....
    Didnt hear much of the evidence but I assume it was compelling enough for the jury...
    Saying that, he wasn't found guilty of ALL the charges !!

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    Default Re: Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsatan View Post
    During the trial, prosecutors portrayed him as a well-practised manipulator, who promised to boost his victims' careers and get them to meet celebrities in exchange for sexual favours.
    One of my favourite porn sites is Backroom Castings, dumb bitches who are willing to do anything for easy money and fame. Obviously all the girls on that site are 18+

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    Im torn here. Just wondering the fact that he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable cunt has had a bearing on the verdicts here. I mean lets face it this guy is not poor little Kevin Webster nor likable old Ken Barlow....nor did he ever "entertain" us like DLT did...I think he was always going to be in trouble due to the above and his general smugness.
    Everyone knew/knows all about the casting couch and what it is for so im not saying this stuff didn't happen im just wondering aloud if its really fair or "justice".

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    He offered to boost their careers if they were 'nice' to him. They were adults and old enough to say no but they were prepared to offer sex to further their career. Their choice. Now they are just hoping to get money from this. If they want money they should put on a short dress and high heels and hang around on a street corner. They have already pr0stituted themselves once so no big deal. (">

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    He offered to boost their careers if they were 'nice' to him. They were adults and old enough to say no but they were prepared to offer sex to further their career. Their choice. Now they are just hoping to get money from this. If they want money they should put on a short dress and high heels and hang around on a street corner. They have already pr0stituted themselves once so no big deal. (">
    I was thinking exactly the same. Obviously the 15 year old wasn't an adult but the ones of the consenting age knew what was what. They pr0stituted themselves to further their career, it maybe didn't pay off and they are bitter now.

    Is abusing your power that way actually illegal though? Sure it's unethical and unprofessional but illegal?

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    Sentencing will be interesting..... imagine it will be either way too lenient (although I tend to agree with above.. should he have been found guilty) or way too heavy, making an example of him

    Anyone know the typical sentences for these crimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerman View Post
    I was thinking exactly the same. Obviously the 15 year old wasn't an adult but the ones of the consenting age knew what was what. They pr0stituted themselves to further their career, it maybe didn't pay off and they are bitter now.

    Is abusing your power that way actually illegal though? Sure it's unethical and unprofessional but illegal?
    If she was there looking for a career in the media it's quite possible he didn't even know she was only 15. She may have dropped out of school and lied about her age in the hope of getting work. Some 15 year old's especially with make up, can look a few years older. (">

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    He offered to boost their careers if they were 'nice' to him. They were adults and old enough to say no but they were prepared to offer sex to further their career. Their choice. Now they are just hoping to get money from this. If they want money they should put on a short dress and high heels and hang around on a street corner. They have already pr0stituted themselves once so no big deal. (">
    I didn't know you were involved in the six week trial and was aware of all the details? Perhaps you can enlighten us of your in depth knowledge of the facts of this case?

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    Default Re: Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

    I would guess at him getting around 18 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by macmilm View Post
    Anyone know the typical sentences for these crimes
    Don't know, but if truly guilty then it should be capital punishment... slow and lingering bored to death. Same punishment your wife has been sentenced to. (">

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDG View Post
    I didn't know you were involved in the six week trial and was aware of all the details? Perhaps you can enlighten us of your in depth knowledge of the facts of this case?
    The majority of opinions here are just that and are based on what we have individually read or heard on the radio/TV. If we needed to sit through a six week trial before we can voice an opinion this thread would not have any replies because none of us have sat through the six week trial. And as far as I am concerned if an adult woman cant say no and puts her career before her self worth then that is her problem. If that is the case then he may have been unethical but by agreeing to his terms they are just as responsible for what happened. At 18 the law says they were old enough to make their own decisions. They could have said no and walked out. As far as him exposing himself they should have just laughed and walked out. (">

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDG View Post
    I didn't know you were involved in the six week trial and was aware of all the details? Perhaps you can enlighten us of your in depth knowledge of the facts of this case?

    Seems a bit harsh considering he didn't claim to be involved or have in-depth knowledge !!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

    I am glad he has been gound guilty the man has fed on the pain and misery of many a person total low life

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstar View Post
    I am glad he has been gound guilty the man has fed on the pain and misery of many a person total low life
    I wonder how many on the jury thought the same way as you. Your view supports Davidf's theory perfectly. (">

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidF View Post
    Im torn here. Just wondering the fact that he comes across as a thoroughly unlikable cunt has had a bearing on the verdicts here. I mean lets face it this guy is not poor little Kevin Webster nor likable old Ken Barlow....nor did he ever "entertain" us like DLT did...I think he was always going to be in trouble due to the above and his general smugness.
    Everyone knew/knows all about the casting couch and what it is for so im not saying this stuff didn't happen im just wondering aloud if its really fair or "justice".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    One of my favourite porn sites is Backroom Castings, dumb bitches who are willing to do anything for easy money and fame. Obviously all the girls on that site are 18+
    The site isn't real, it's scripted to make it look like the above... Not that I've been on the site myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by kroner View Post
    The site isn't real, it's scripted to make it look like the above... Not that I've been on the site myself
    I'm not so sure BCC is scripted. If you want scripted, check Faketaxi or Fakeagent uk, not that I know about such things

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBird View Post
    I wonder how many on the jury thought the same way as you. Your view supports Davidf's theory perfectly. (">
    ...and you whole post basically assumes she has left school, dolled herself up, put on a push up bra and teased him into doing whatever he did with her.

    What is your point?

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    Default Re: Max Clifford guilty of eight indecent assaults

    A 20 year period? So from the ages of 18 to 38? Need some clarity here.

    Not an excuse but at least it reads like the victims weren't young children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macmilm View Post
    Seems a bit harsh considering he didn't claim to be involved or have in-depth knowledge !!!!!!!
    .... yet still seems amazingly be able to sum up exactly what the situation was without any real knowledge of what evidence was presented over 6 weeks!

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