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    Attention Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    Monday, 16 June 2014 10:04

    A half billion year old hammer embedded in rock that formed 400 million years ago.
    In June 1936 Max Hahn and his wife Emma were on a walk beside a waterfall near to London, Texas, when they noticed a rock with wood protruding from its core. They decided to take the oddity home and later cracked it open with a hammer and a chisel. What they found within shocked the archaeological and scientific community. Embedded in the rock was what appeared to be some type of ancient man made hammer.
    A team of archaeologists analysed and dated it. The rock encasing the hammer was dated to more than 400 million years old. The hammer itself turned out to be more than 500 million years old. Additionally, a section of the wooden handle had begun the metamorphosis into coal. The hammer’s head, made of more than 96% iron, is far more pure than anything nature could have achieved without assistance from relatively modern smelting methods.
    In 1889 near Nampa, Idaho, whilst workers were boring an artesian well, a small figurine made of baked clay was extracted from a depth of 320 feet. To reach this depth the workers had to cut through fifteen feet of basalt lava and many other strata below that. That in itself does not seem remarkable, until one considers that the very top layer of lava has been dated to at least 15 million years old!
    It is currently accepted by science and geology that coal is a by-product of decaying vegetation. The vegetation becomes buried over time and is covered with sediment. That sediment eventually fossilises and becomes rock. This natural process of coal formation takes up to 400 million years to accomplish.
    Anything that is found in lumps of coal or in coal seams during mining, had to have been placed or dropped into the vegetation before it was buried in sediment.
    In 1944, as a ten year old boy, Newton Anderson, dropped a lump of coal in his basement and it broke in half as it hit the floor. What he discovered inside defies explanation based upon current scientific orthodoxy.
    Inside the coal was a hand crafted brass alloy bell with an iron clapper and sculptured handle.
    When an analysis was carried out it was discovered that the bell was made from anunusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production (including copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium).
    The seam from whence this lump of coal was mined is estimated to be 300,000,000 years old!
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    A hand crafted bell found in a 300 million year old lump of coal!
    These extraordinary discoveries although bizarre, are not unique or even uncommon. There are literally thousands of them collecting dust, locked away from public scrutiny in the vaults of museums throughout the world.
    There are many other unusual reported finds including the following:
    The Morrisonville, Illinois Times, on June 11, 1891, reported how Mrs. S. W. Culp found a circular shaped eight-carat gold chain, about 10 inches long, embedded in a lump of coal after she broke it apart to put in her scuttle. The chain was described as “antique” and of “quaint workmanship.”
    Displayed in a museum at Glen Rose, Texas, is a cast iron pot reportedly found in a large lump of coal in 1912 by a worker feeding coal into the furnace of a power plant. When he split open the coal the worker said the pot fell out, leaving its impression in the coal.
    Yet another report found in the Epoch Times told of a Colorado rancher who in the 1800’s broke open a lump of coal, dug from a vein some 300 feet below the surface, and discovered a “strange-looking iron thimble.”
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    A cast iron pot found in a lump of coal.
    The Salzburg Cube is yet another ancient puzzle found by a worker named Reidl, in an Austrian foundry in 1885. Like the others, this man broke open a block of coal and found a metal cube embedded inside. Recent analysis established the object was of forged iron and obviously hand crafted. The coal it was found in was millions of years old.
    The list of such items goes on and on and on.
    Welcome to the world of Ooparts, or Out of Place Artefacts.
    Out of place artefacts (Ooparts) are so named because conventional scientific wisdom (an oxymoron if ever there was one) states that these artefacts shouldn’t exist based upon currently accepted beliefs regarding our origins and history. These discoveries are“out of place” in the orthodox timeline of human history.
    The usual methods of the conformist scientific community, when faced with such anomalies is to attempt to debunk their reported age, or perhaps endeavour to discredit the source of the report or even the reporter. If this approach fails then usually the artefacts themselves are banished to the shadowy vaults of museums and warehouses, never to be seen again.
    If these unusual artefacts were “one offs” then perhaps one could be forgiven for accepting the view espoused by the mainstream scientific and archaeological community that they are hoaxes or misreported stories. However, when one realises that thousands upon thousands of these anomalous artefacts have been discovered and reported over the years, then one may need to re-evaluate ones acceptance of the integrity of mainstream archaeology and science.
    Occasionally an honest archaeologist will attempt to reveal to the public the true age and origin of such anomalous objects. They will question the accepted beliefs of their mainstream peers. They usually find that their career ends quite abruptly.
    Unfortunately, the majority just accept what they are taught in school and university without question. That is how our educational system is designed. It does not encourage individuality and originality. It purely indoctrinates one with established beliefs and dogma.
    If one requires evidence of this “mainstream” mentality, one need look no further than the realms of psychiatry. Modern psychiatry seeks to demonize and declare mentally ill anyone who deviates from what is regarded as the norm.
    These so called “mental health professionals” have even invented a new mental disorder named Oppositional Defiant Disorder, or ODD (love the irony of the abbreviation).
    This newly invented condition is listed in the latest instalment of the industry’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, which dubs people who do not conform to what those in charge declare to be normal, as mentally insane.
    So there you have your proof – I’m obviously an unmitigated nutter and completely insane. At least that is what those in authority would like everyone to believe!
    Anyway, I digress.
    On one side of the field we have the Darwinists and their theory of evolution, trying to establish the extremely flawed view that we have somehow evolved into highly intelligent sentient beings from a primordial blob of gunge, miraculously brought to life by an electrical storm billions of years ago. (Perhaps one of this cults followers could explain to me when “consciousness” evolved, and provide proof – I await with baited breath!)
    On the other side we have the creationists with the belief that some omnipotent invisible being who lives in the clouds, waved his magic wand about 7,000 years ago and created the earth and everything on it. Again the adherents of this equally flawed theory rely on nothing more than a book called the Bible for their “proof” of this concept. The fact that this book has been bastardised during translation numerous times during its existence, has been re-written to certain individuals personal preference on a number of occasions, and has had many complete chapters omitted, is irrelevant to its followers. All they require is “faith”. Proof and evidence is not a prerequisite!
    One couldn’t get more opposing beliefs if one tried, and both camps adhere to their beliefs voraciously, and with unshakable fervour. Yet neither are based on any kind of factual or hard evidence.
    The reality is that the origin of the human race is a total enigma. No one, anywhere, actually knows how old humanity is or how and where it originated. It is a complete mystery. Yet from birth one is indoctrinated into one or the other of the above factions, with no questions asked or alternative opinions allowed.
    The problem the mainstream has with these anomalous Ooparts is that they throw into question every single established belief there is regarding our past.
    It seems that everywhere we look, we find things that contradict much of the scientific orthodoxy of today. The scientific establishment will never acknowledge or admit that these artefacts are authentic. To do so would be to admit that they are completely wrong about our origins, and consequently, invalidate all of the text books used to indoctrinate us and our children.
    The discovery of Ooparts completely annihilates the [comparatively recent] theory of evolution. If, as this hypothesis would have us believe, modern humans only evolved 200,000 years ago (or thereabouts), one has to ask how man made artefacts, found in substrata originating millions of years ago, could be explained?
    Alternatively, the advocates of creationism have a very quaint way of “acknowledging” the existence of Ooparts, and bizarrely, actually believe that Ooparts substantiate their world view.
    Creationists just completely disregard the established dating methods, and declare every single recognized archaeological and geological process null and void. They would have us all believe that coal seams, rock strata, fossils, minerals, precious stones and every other antediluvian element, took only a few thousand years to form.
    Yet the psychiatric establishment would have me labelled as the loony for questioning this baloney. Go figure!
    There will no doubt be readers who, similar to predictable conservative archaeologists, and probably due to their indoctrinated belief system, will also dismiss the aforementioned Ooparts as hoaxes or forgeries. Perhaps they would like to consider and offer an explanation for the following.
    It is an accepted belief that humans and dinosaurs did not co-exist. According to conventional academia, dinosaurs roamed the earth between 65 and 225 million years ago, whereas the earliest upright biped humanoid, homo erectus, only appeared about 1.8 million years ago.
    However, in 1968 a palaeontologist named Stan Taylor began excavations of fossilised dinosaur footprints, discovered in the bed of the Paluxy river near Glen Rose, Texas. What he unearthed shocked and dumbfounded the scientific community. Alongside the dinosaur tracks, in exactly the same cretaceous fossilised strata, were well preserved human footprints.
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    Human footprints crossing 3 toed dinosaur footprints fossilised in the Paluxy river bed.
    Immediate reaction of evolutionists, archaeologists, and science in general, was to debunk the find as a hoax. “They were carved into the rock by hoaxers” or “They are not human footprints, but more dinosaur footprints that have been eroded to look human” were the arguments most commonly proposed.
    However, their line of reasoning falls somewhat flat when one asks why only the human prints were eroded and not also the 3 toed dinosaur prints? Additionally one has to consider, if the human prints were carved as a hoax, how did the hoaxers manage to carve further human footprints that continued under bedrock that was later removed from the side of the river bed?
    Since the initial discovery, hundreds more human footprints have been discovered and unearthed, both in Paluxy and in many other places around the globe. Either those hoaxers have unlimited time and budget – or someone is telling porkies!
    Next one needs to consider another find discovered in 100 million year old cretaceous limestone. A fossilised human finger, which was found along with a childs tooth and human hair. This finger has been subjected to numerous scientific tests and analysis. Sectioning revealed the typical porous bone structure expected in a human finger. Additionally a Cat-scan and MRI scan identified joints and traced tendons throughout the length of the fossil. This is one find that science cannot explain away as a hoax.
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    Cat-scan of a human fossilised finger shows dark areas showing the interior of bones and bone marrow, along with tendons.
    There is however another find of recent years that blows all of the others into a cocked hat regarding age.
    Over the past few decades, miners near the little town of Ottosdal in Western Transvaal, South Africa, have been digging up hundreds of mysterious metal spheres. These spheres measure between 25 and 100 mm in diameter, and some are etched with three parallel grooves running completely around the equator. Two types of spheres have been found. One is composed of a solid bluish metal with flecks of white, the other is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance.
    These spheres are reportedly so delicately balanced that even with modern technology, they would need to be made in a zero gravity environment to attain these characteristics. These objects have become known as the Klerksdorp spheres.
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    A Klerksdorp sphere
    Geologists have attempted to debunk these artefacts as natural formations or “limonite concretions”. They fail to explain sufficiently how these formations occurred naturally with perfectly straight and perfectly spaced grooves around the centres.
    Perhaps the real reason for such fervent attempted debunking by the scientific community, is that the rock in which these spheres where found is Precambrian – and dated to 2.8 billion years old!
    Whether one wishes to accept these out of place artefacts as genuine or not is I suppose, down to personal beliefs.
    Evolutionists refuse to accept them as to do so would mean re-evaluating their whole indoctrinated belief system. They will even stoop to producing outright fantasy in their attempts to discredit these discoveries. If that fails then they will just pretend that they do not exist, and then hide them away – forever.
    Creationists on the other hand willingly accept them as some bizarre kind of proof that the universe is only about 7,000 years old, and totally ignore any evidence, from any source, to the contrary. They continue to cling to a medieval belief system based purely on blind faith. How quaint.
    Personally, I don’t belong to either camp. I keep an open mind regarding our origins. I don’t have any particular “philosophy” on the subject but rather prefer to adapt my understanding as new evidence becomes available. My only current belief based upon all of the available facts to date is that the human race has inhabited this planet for millions of years longer than is presently accepted.
    I realise that I will never discover the answer to the question of our origin. The human race has been searching for this answer since the dawn of time, and it still evades us.
    Everything we have been taught in our schools and universities about our origin and history, is based upon nothing more than speculation and hypothesis. There is not a single provable fact out there that conclusively answers the question “where do we come from”
    What I will continue to do however is question everything, and not just blindly accept any mainstream viewpoint because it happens to be fashionable at the time.
    If that means one day I get a knock at my door from men in white coats holding a straightjacket, then so be it……

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    What a load of shite.

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    I find it fascinating, will have a proper read when I finish work.

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    It was a fascinating read, but like all of these "conspiracy" theories, its written from a great deal of bias and a huge amount of apparently convincing logic evidence. But for every conspiracy there are just as many attempts to legitimise ... I personally believe the scientists and not the crazies.. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    For anyone who shouts bollocks, consider this. The Earth is over 4 billion years old. Life started approximately 3.5 billion years ago. So, is it beyond the realms of possibility that life created an intelligent species long before us? Homo Sapiens have been around for approx 200,000 years, hominids in one variation or another for around 2 million. That's just a tiny fraction of the time life has been on the planet.

    There is also a thing called convergent evolution, where the same end result of evolution, such as the eye, has happened independently in unrelated lineages of species. Again, if the eye can evolve in different lineages, can a large brain? And one large enough for intelligence? For me, it's a given and long before we arrived.

    So, what happened to the civilisations that lived on Earth before us? Who knows, maybe natural disasters wiped them out, maybe they escaped to populate other star systems, or maybe they're still here. Maybe they evolved to living beneath the Earth's crust where Geo-Thermal energy is abundant. If so, they could build huge cities underground with limitless resources and energy and any natural disaster that wipes out the Sun's energy, such as a massive volcanic event or a meteor strike, wouldn't affect them. Maybe the 5% or so of UFO sightings that cannot be adequately explained are not extraterrestrial, but ultra-terrestrial?

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    For anyone who shouts bollocks, consider this. The Earth is over 4 billion years old. Life started approximately 3.5 billion years ago. So, is it beyond the realms of possibility that life created an intelligent species long before us? Homo Sapiens have been around for approx 200,000 years, hominids in one variation or another for around 2 million. That's just a tiny fraction of the time life has been on the planet.

    There is also a thing called convergent evolution, where the same end result of evolution, such as the eye, has happened independently in unrelated lineages of species. Again, if the eye can evolve in different lineages, can a large brain? And one large enough for intelligence? For me, it's a given and long before we arrived.

    So, what happened to the civilisations that lived on Earth before us? Who knows, maybe natural disasters wiped them out, maybe they escaped to populate other star systems, or maybe they're still here. Maybe they evolved to living beneath the Earth's crust where Geo-Thermal energy is abundant. If so, they could build huge cities underground with limitless resources and energy and any natural disaster that wipes out the Sun's energy, such as a massive volcanic event or a meteor strike, wouldn't affect them. Maybe the 5% or so of UFO sightings that cannot be adequately explained are not extraterrestrial, but ultra-terrestrial?
    or fuck all that off and just accept the Flintstones was real!
    You know he grew up as a little shitspark from the old shitflint and then he turned into a shitbonfire and driven by the winds of his monumental ignorance he turned into a raging shitfirestorm. If I get to be married to Barb I'll have total control of Sunnyvale and then I can unleash the shitnami tidal wave that will engulf Ricky and extinguish his shitflames forever. And with any luck he'll drown in the undershit of that wave. Shitwaves.

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    Isn't that Klerksdorp just a cricket ball? Kevin Pieterson will now proclaim himself the messiah

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    For anyone who shouts bollocks, consider this. The Earth is over 4 billion years old. Life started approximately 3.5 billion years ago. So, is it beyond the realms of possibility that life created an intelligent species long before us? Homo Sapiens have been around for approx 200,000 years, hominids in one variation or another for around 2 million. That's just a tiny fraction of the time life has been on the planet.

    There is also a thing called convergent evolution, where the same end result of evolution, such as the eye, has happened independently in unrelated lineages of species. Again, if the eye can evolve in different lineages, can a large brain? And one large enough for intelligence? For me, it's a given and long before we arrived.

    So, what happened to the civilisations that lived on Earth before us? Who knows, maybe natural disasters wiped them out, maybe they escaped to populate other star systems, or maybe they're still here. Maybe they evolved to living beneath the Earth's crust where Geo-Thermal energy is abundant. If so, they could build huge cities underground with limitless resources and energy and any natural disaster that wipes out the Sun's energy, such as a massive volcanic event or a meteor strike, wouldn't affect them. Maybe the 5% or so of UFO sightings that cannot be adequately explained are not extraterrestrial, but ultra-terrestrial?
    Maybe God created everything and we are just subject to his wicked sense of humour !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnerfreak View Post
    ... I personally believe the scientists and not the crazies.. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Nice link, hadn't seen that before

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    Anyone consider timetravel and these people are from our futures going back and planting some easter eggs ;-)

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    Default Re: Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by CzarJunkie View Post
    For anyone who shouts bollocks, consider this. The Earth is over 4 billion years old. Life started approximately 3.5 billion years ago. So, is it beyond the realms of possibility that life created an intelligent species long before us? Homo Sapiens have been around for approx 200,000 years, hominids in one variation or another for around 2 million. That's just a tiny fraction of the time life has been on the planet.

    There is also a thing called convergent evolution, where the same end result of evolution, such as the eye, has happened independently in unrelated lineages of species. Again, if the eye can evolve in different lineages, can a large brain? And one large enough for intelligence? For me, it's a given and long before we arrived.

    So, what happened to the civilisations that lived on Earth before us? Who knows, maybe natural disasters wiped them out, maybe they escaped to populate other star systems, or maybe they're still here. Maybe they evolved to living beneath the Earth's crust where Geo-Thermal energy is abundant. If so, they could build huge cities underground with limitless resources and energy and any natural disaster that wipes out the Sun's energy, such as a massive volcanic event or a meteor strike, wouldn't affect them. Maybe the 5% or so of UFO sightings that cannot be adequately explained are not extraterrestrial, but ultra-terrestrial?
    Maybe it's those fuckers making the noises in your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
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    These spheres are reportedly so delicately balanced that even with modern technology, they would need to be made in a zero gravity environment to attain these characteristics. These objects have become known as the Klerksdorp spheres.
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    A Klerksdorp sphere

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    Would have to be made in zero g to be perfectly balanced - wtf how much bull

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksheep View Post
    Would have to be made in zero g to be perfectly balanced - wtf how much bull
    This is my problem with this whole scene. They cling onto bull, rumour, misrepresentation and hearsay as being the absolute truth purely because it conflicts with 'What the experts have told them'.

    It seems to be more important to believe that they've been lied to all of their lives than to actually find the truth.

    I'm all for discovering new theories, methods and objects that rewrite history as we know it, happy to accept the fact that we may have had an ancient / alien / newt race 4 million years ago but it has to be a little better presented than "We found some rocks that someone said was made in Zero G, therefor it must be aliens".

    These people will never accept credible evidence from experts as they all work for The Government(s) and therefore it's all a conspiracy.

    End of rant.

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