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    BBC News Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'



    Prince Andrew has been named in documents filed in a Florida court





    A US lawyer alleged to have had sex with a minor has denied the claims - and said allegations against Prince Andrew must also be "presumed" false.


    Alan Dershowitz said the woman making the claims "should not be believed".
    He and the Duke of York were named in documents filed in a Florida court over how prosecutors handled a case against financier Jeffrey Epstein.
    The woman alleges she was forced by Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew - claims denied by Buckingham Palace.
    She says it happened when she was under age, and on three occasions - in London, New York and on a private Caribbean island owned by Epstein - between 1999 and 2002.
    A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said: "This relates to long-standing and ongoing civil proceedings in the United States, to which the Duke of York is not a party.
    "As such we would not comment on the detail. However, for the avoidance of doubt, any suggestion of impropriety with under age minors is categorically untrue".


    'Will not rest'

    Mr Dershowitz, a former Harvard Law professor, said the allegations against him were not true.
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] programme, he said: "My only feeling is if she's lied about me - which I know to an absolute certainty she has - she should not be believed about anyone else."
    He said the woman had "lied about other public figures including a former prime minister and others who she claims to have participated in sexual activities with".
    "So I think it must be presumed all her allegations against Prince Andrew were false as well," he told the programme.
    He added that he had only met the prince at public occasions, and had never been alone with him.


    Background


    By Rajini Vaidyanathan, BBC Washington correspondent

    While accusations are levelled against Prince Andrew, it's important to note that he is not party to the proceedings.
    Instead he is named as part of evidence relating to a wider case of an alleged sex trafficking scheme, involving US businessman Jeffrey Epstein, who spent time in jail in 2008-9 for a sex offence with a minor.
    Two women (known as Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2) are suing the US government, saying it failed to protect their rights when it entered into a plea deal with Epstein.
    Now, two further women (Jane Doe #3 and #4) want to join this case, and it's Jane Doe #3 who has made claims against the Duke of York, as part of this.
    The prince strongly denies the allegations. This is the first time they have surfaced publicly, and no legal case has been made against him on this matter.




    Mr Dershowitz said he wanted all evidence about the case to be made public, and said: "The story is totally made up. I do not know this woman. I was not at the places at the times. I am denying [the allegations] under oath thus subjecting myself to a perjury prosecution were I not telling the truth."

    The woman has issued a statement through her lawyers, saying she was "looking forward to vindicating my rights as an innocent victim and pursuing all available recourse", adding that she was "not going to be bullied back into silence".
    The court document alleges that Epstein sexually trafficked the woman making her available for sex to "politically connected and financially powerful people".
    Prince Andrew and Mr Dershowitz are two of three well-known men named in the court document who it alleges had sexual relations with the woman.



    Prince Andrew has been criticised for his former friendship with Jeffrey Epstein (right)


    The prince has previously been criticised for his former friendship with Epstein, who was sentenced to 18 months in prison for soliciting a minor for prostitution.
    The prince and Epstein were photographed meeting in December 2010, after the tycoon had served his prison sentence, and the prince has also visited Epstein at his Florida home over the years.
    The prince later had to apologise for his friendship with him, and stepped down as the UK special representative for trade and investment after 10 years in the role.
    US citizen Virginia Roberts waived her anonymity in an interview with the Mail on Sunday in 2011, claiming she had been sexually exploited by Epstein as a teenager.
    She also claimed to have met Prince Andrew on several occasions, but the paper said there was no suggestion of any sexual contact between Virginia Roberts and the prince.
    Peter Hunt, BBC royal correspondent, said the prince was "once again the focus of an attention he'd rather avoid because of his past friendship with a convicted sex offender".
    Our correspondent said Saturday morning's newspaper headlines were "pretty unpalatable" for the prince "and indeed for the royal family".

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    Something has got to be done about this. It is bonkers that anyone can make a claim against anyone, with their anonymity ensured, but the person being named is plastered across the tabloids regardless of whether they did anything or not.

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    The Royals have always been a law to themselves much like the Catholic Church.

    Some People with money and power think they can do anything they want as the laws are just for us mere mortals.

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    A man of his stature and standing should be able to fuck any wench he likes.

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    A man of his stature and standing should be able to fuck any wench he likes.
    not 14 y/o ones he cant lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI View Post
    A man of his stature and standing should be able to fuck any wench he likes.
    based on that, how did he end up with fergie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippeyrude View Post
    based on that, how did he end up with fergie...
    The Ginge Minge has mystical, almost hypnotic powers.

    Quote Originally Posted by rookie View Post
    not 14 y/o ones he cant lol
    According to reports she was 17 at the time.. below the age of consent in the USA, but not the UK.

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    Numerous countries have 13 as their age of consent. If someone from one of those nations came here and slept with a 13 year old girl, what would be your opinion?

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    He will get away with it. I reckon he actually didn't know but it makes no difference as he eill get off anyway.

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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    Numerous countries have 13 as their age of consent. If someone from one of those nations came here and slept with a 13 year old girl, what would be your opinion?

    Almost all the foreigners here are American and they find it difficult to accept that we can bang at 16, although it has to be just a reason to create banter, I am sure none of them were holding off until their 18th birthday.

    Personally I think its obvious you have to adhere to the host countries law and to one of your own moral deciding, should the host country be a little more forgiving than your own. Anyone that takes a trip to Thailand and bangs 14 year olds needs to use their descretion when they come home and decide to tell their stories.

    As for the Prince, well, he's a Prince, she should be fucking thankful.
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    Default Re: Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'

    i bet the queen loved the paris attacks as it has all gone quiet on the prince andrew front.
    bad news is somtimes good news

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