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    Fucking brilliant I thought.

    BC plays a great role with some good action all the way through to keep you going. Makes it all the better knowing it's based on a true story. Great imagery during the end credits also!

    Deservingly a 8.5/10 for me. A must watch!

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    great watch, and cant believe i didnt hear about the end part of film as watched few American shows with CK in them

    really well directed by eastwood i thought

    8/10

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    10/10 epic film!!

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    Brilliant film, it was only when i was in Houston visiting family that one of my cousins said he is a local guy. biggest compliment i could give a film is that i would deffo watch again and really enjoy it.

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    Watched it last night 11/10 for me what a well directed acted film top draw stuff but......................

    Felt sorry for him and his family, for what he did for his men and country.

    May he RIP.
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    Not a bad film as films go just edged by Fury which was better acted and scripted. good film all the same. 7/10

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    Just watched it. Very good but still only an 8/10 for me. Story line quite basic, acting ok, sad ending after what he and others had gone through. Well worth a watch though

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    Great film, got to say when I read on screen what happened to him at the end, made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Really enjoyed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAR View Post
    Great film, got to say when I read on screen what happened to him at the end, made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Really enjoyed it.
    Ye Me Too, didn't realize it was a based on a true story. hairs on my whole body stood up.

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    yeah here he is in sons of guns year before it happened
    in that show he helps the show make a rifle that may have taken out bin laden AFAICR
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    Guess we don't all see it the same way, decent enough movie, thought he was a fn lunatic who loved killing people, hence the reason for going back for more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfc4ever View Post
    Guess we don't all see it the same way, decent enough movie, thought he was a fn lunatic who loved killing people, hence the reason for going back for more and more.
    The way I see it ,He was a sniper in the Us Army,isn't killing people what snipers do ...... he had a duty to perform,
    They way I see it ,What about the Iraqi sniper taking out all of US Soilders he was the looney,sadist, jahadic killer

    Any way another fantastic film directed by Clint 10/10 really enjoyed it...

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    Pity about the obvious doll used for the baby!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
    Pity about the obvious doll used for the baby!!!


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    Yeah the GF pointed it out to me, and I couldn't keep my eyes off it after that.


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    Apparently both of the twins babies that were to be used were either ill or wouldn't cooperate so short on filming time they were forced to use a doll!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Realist View Post
    Watched it last night 11/10 for me what a well directed acted film top draw stuff but......................

    Felt sorry for him and his family, for what he did for his men and country.

    May he RIP.
    He also claimed to have killed 30 Americans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. How do you justify that, killing fellow americans who were out trying to get food and water after being abandoned by their government?What kind of savages make a hero out of someone who has claimed to kill their fellow citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo View Post
    He also claimed to have killed 30 Americans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. How do you justify that, killing fellow americans who were out trying to get food and water after being abandoned by their government?What kind of savages make a hero out of someone who has claimed to kill their fellow citizens?
    i think he was smoking crack when he made those claims ! nothing proved that they were true were they ?

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    Good read this:

    Following the release of the film American Sniper in theaters across the US, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) has warned of a “significant rise in violent hate rhetoric targeting the Arab and Muslim-American communities.”The ADC believes the threats “are directly linked to the negative media coverage and hateful propaganda launched against the Arab and Muslim communities following the attacks on the Charlie Hedbo offices in France” earlier this month. But the civil rights organization notes that racist threats have intensified in the wake of American Sniper, with moviegoers taking to social media to express their desire to murder Arabs and Muslims after leaving the theater.Having both watched the movie and read the book on which it is based, I am not the least bit surprised by the incitement it has spawned. American Sniper is brilliant propaganda that valorizes American military aggression while delivering Hollywood’s most racist depiction of Arabs in recent memory, effectively legitimizing America’s ongoing bombing campaigns across the Middle East.Unrepentant mass killer

    American Sniper, directed by Clint Eastwood, is based on the autobiography of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, reputedly the deadliest sniper in American history.Replete with hatred, bigotry and unrepentant bloodlust, Kyle’s book boasts of killing 160 Iraqi “savages” during his four deployments in Iraq following the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] US invasion and occupation in 2003.“Savage, despicable evil. That’s what we were fighting in Iraq,” Kyle writes in his book.“I only wish I had killed more,” he writes, adding, “I loved what I did … It was fun. I had the time of my life.”“They hated us because we weren’t Muslim. They wanted to kill us, even though we just booted out their dictator, because we practiced a different religion than they did,” adds Kyle, who goes on to confess, “I don’t shoot people with Korans – I’d like to, but I don’t.” In Kyle’s mind, all Iraqis who resisted the invading US soldiers were irrationally violent religious fanatics.In stark contrast, Hollywood sanitizes Kyle, humanizing him as a complex, likable and anguished hero.Hateful

    Following the movie’s debut in select theaters on Christmas Day, author and journalist Max Blumenthal and I were [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for tweeting our disgust with Hollywood’s glorification of a mass killer and exposing the racism and lies espoused by Kyle. Although Kyle’s most ardent supporters claim to hate ISIS and al-Qaeda, they often call on these terrorist groups to behead critics of US military aggression.The movie has since broken box office records, grossing $105 million during its nationwide opening and garnered accolades from across the political spectrum (Vice President Joe Biden said [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] at the Washington, DC premier). In addition, the movie scored [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Frustrated by the glorification and whitewash of a racist mass killer, I posted passages from Kyle’s book on Twitter, highlighting his hateful and homicidal statements and drew attention to the anti-Arab and anti-Muslim threats the movie was inspiring, all of which I [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] that went viral.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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    The reaction to the movie has since [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].Actor Seth Rogen compared American Sniper to Stolz der Nation (Nation’s Pride), a [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] about a glorified Nazi sniper that appears at the end of the Quentin Tarantino movie Inglorious Basterds (the Nazi sniper is shown mowing down American and British soldiers with great efficiency and apparent moral superiority). Documentary maker Michael Moore also stirred controversy when he tweeted that snipers “aren’t heroes,” though he later clarified he was not referring to American Sniper, which he liked. Nevertheless, a [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], pundits, politicians and worshippers of US military aggression have whipped up an ultra-nationalist frenzy, firing back against the movie’s critics.Meanwhile, growing criticism of American Sniper appears to be damaging its chances of winning at the Oscars, with Academy members [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] that the film glorifies a “sociopath.”Racist atrocity porn

    While the canonization of Kyle on the big screen is appalling, the movie’s whitewash of the US destruction of Iraq and its racist portrayal of Arabs has proven to be far more dangerous.The US destruction of Iraq left an estimated [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], 4.5 million displaced, five million orphaned, some two million widowed and birth defects and cancer rates significantly worse than those seen in the aftermath of the atomic bombing of Japan at the end of the Second World War. The US war on Iraq also [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. This [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] is completely erased from the narrative presented in American Sniper.In the opening scene of the film a conflicted Chris Kyle (played by Bradley Cooper) is perched on a rooftop with an Iraqi mother and child in the crosshairs of his sniper scope. He watches the mother give the child a grenade to throw at a US marine convoy. He reluctantly seeks permission to shoot.Suddenly the screen cuts to Kyle as a child hunting with his father in Texas. Another scene shows him at church. Next he’s at the dinner table.“There are three types of people in this world: sheep, wolves and sheepdogs,” [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Kyle’s father. “Now, some people prefer to believe that evil doesn’t exist in the world … those are the sheep. And then you got predators who use violence to prey on the weak. They’re the wolves. And then there are those who have been blessed with the gift of aggression, and the overpowering need to protect the flock. These men are the rare breed that live to confront the wolf. They are the sheepdog.”For the rest of the movie Kyle is the sheepdog, the protector, the hero. And Iraqis are the evil wolves he must put down to protect the lives of his fellow “sheepdogs.”Next we see Kyle as an adult. We watch him fall in love, get married and join the SEALs. Then the Twin Towers fall and he is deployed to Iraq, a narrative that leaves the poorly informed with the impression that Iraq was involved in the 11 September 2001 attacks, the very lie that the Iraq war was predicated on. This false narrative is reaffirmed when al-Qaeda appears in Iraq on Kyle’s first tour in 2003, a [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] that conflates indigenous armed resistance to a foreign occupier with a terrorist group that attacked the United States. In a country where [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] of Americans still believe that Iraq was connected to the 11 September 2001 attacks, perpetuating this falsehood, even if unintentional, is reckless.Eventually, we return to the scene in the movie’s opening. Kyle shoots the child to save the Marine convoy. The mother runs towards the felled child, collects the grenade and prepares to launch it in the direction of the soldiers. Kyle shoots the woman dead at mid-launch. The grenade explodes before it reaches the soldiers.“There was a kid who barely had any hair on his balls, his mother gives him a grenade and sends him out there to kill Marines,” says an agonized Kyle. “That was evil like I’d never seen before.”This black and white, good versus evil theme continues throughout the movie’s entirety. US soldiers are humanized. They have names and families, fiancées and children. And they return home with deep physical and psychological wounds, whereas the local Arab population, including the women and children, are depicted as terrorists. The only time Arab women and children are innocent victims is when they are being brutalized by scary Arab men, but even they are nameless figures.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] provides a cogent summary of the movie’s depiction of Arab characters:
    The “savages” consist of [Abu Musab] al-Zarqawi, who’s introduced via the infamous clip of him decapitating [American radio-tower repairman] Nick Berg; his No. 2, “The Butcher,” who brutally executes an informant’s young son by drilling his head with a power tool, and stores people’s heads on shelves; and Mustafa, a Syrian Olympic sharpshooter who videotapes his kills and hawks bootlegs of them on the street. Mustafa is, like all classic villains, dressed in black, doesn’t utter in a word, and is single-minded in his pursuit of Kyle – he has a poster of Kyle’s bounty, $180,000, on his wall, and spends his spare time spinning an armor-piercing bullet on a table.
    In the end, it wasn’t Iraqi “savages” that killed Kyle. A fellow soldier suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] at a Texas gun range in 2013, a fact the film glosses over before cutting to footage from Kyle’s real-life funeral. Some may have even left the theater with the impression that Kyle was killed in Iraq.Where are the moderates?

    As the threats against Arab and Muslim Americans and critics of American Sniper escalate in their ferocity, one is left wondering: where are the American moderates? Why haven’t the movie’s director, producers and actors condemned the violent extremism their film is inciting?

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    Cheers Robbo, wont bother watching now the end has been disclosed. :-(

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    i thought the film was pretty average, not a patch on Lone survivor

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